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« Reply #50 on: October 13, 2017, 06:57:23 AM »
"It would be nice to know what becomes of the guards, where will they go and what jobs will they take when the army is done with them?"

O my. does anyone not know the provenance of torture ? This did not arise ex nihilo. A lot of the national guard units at abu ghraib were prison jailers at home. These guys were brutalizing prisoners in the USA long before they were given leave work out the CIA's worst fantasies on Iraqis.

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"As of this past summer, the prison administration estimated that of about 700 prison employees, twenty-nine staff, twenty-six of whom were guards, were currently on active duty. Another thirty-seven had been activated at some point since 2001 but had since returned to the prison.

https://www.thenation.com/article/seeds-abu-ghraib/

Another one is terrorizing people on the streets of NYC:

http://gothamist.com/2015/09/23/abu_ghraib_cop_lombardo.php

These scum do walk among us. The Taguba report names some.

www.npr.org/iraq/2004/prison_abuse_report.pdf

He lost his job, a Major General, no less for that one. Since then he has accused the Bush admin of war crime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonio_Taguba

And who can forget Professor Yoo at Berkeley.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Yoo

These creatures (forgive me, I cannot call them men or women) do walk among us. I hope I never meet any of them, I might throw up.

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« Reply #51 on: October 13, 2017, 07:29:25 AM »
Jesus H. Christ


Peter Arnett must be furious. I wasn't aware of his daughter's connection with Yoo.


You're right about some monsters.
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« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2017, 04:54:32 PM »


The Opioid crisis

The following is select quotes from within the article.

In April 2016, at the height of the deadliest drug epidemic in U.S. history, Congress effectively stripped the Drug Enforcement Administration of its most potent weapon against large drug companies suspected of spilling prescription narcotics onto the nation’s streets.
By then, the opioid war had claimed 200,000 lives, more than three times the number of U.S. military deaths in the Vietnam War.
The chief advocate of the law that hobbled the DEA was Rep. Tom Marino, a Pennsylvania Republican. It passed after Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah) negotiated a final version with the DEA.
The new law makes it virtually impossible for the DEA to freeze suspicious narcotic shipments from the companies, according to internal agency and Justice Department documents and an independent assessment by the DEA’s chief administrative law judge in a soon-to-be-published law review article. That powerful tool had allowed the agency to immediately prevent drugs from reaching the street.
Political action committees representing the industry contributed at least $1.5 million to the 23 lawmakers who sponsored or co-sponsored four versions of the bill, including nearly $100,000 to Marino and $177,000 to Hatch. Overall, the drug industry spent $102 million lobbying Congress on the bill and other legislation between 2014 and 2016, according to lobbying reports.
Besides the sponsors and co-sponsors of the bill, few lawmakers knew the true impact the law would have. It sailed through Congress and was passed by unanimous consent, a parliamentary procedure reserved for bills considered to be noncontroversial. The White House was equally unaware of the bill’s import when President Barack Obama signed it into law, according to interviews with former senior administration officials.


In 2017, Hatch was one of 22 senators to sign a letter[92] to President Donald Trump urging the President to have the United States withdraw from the Paris Agreement. According to the Center for Responsive Politics, Hatch has received over $470,000 from oil, gas and coal interests since 2012….  source wiki

Marino was nominee for Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy.[1] He withdrew on October 17, 2017 following reports that he was the chief architect behind a bill that protected opioid manufacturers and crippled the DEA's ability to combat the opioid epidemic  .. source wiki

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2017/investigations/dea-drug-industry-congress/?utm_term=.dfb39c6126c9

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« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2017, 06:29:00 PM »
As i posted in another thread, the Sackler family is one of the prime movers here.

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a12775932/sackler-family-oxycontin/

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« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2017, 06:45:45 PM »
DuPont and C-8 poisoning:

"Our calculation shows that even if DuPont managers could have forecasted all future legal liabilities, they would have preferred to pollute as long as they thought that the probability of getting caught was less than 19%. Given the extreme set of unlikely events that led to the payment of heavy legal fines, and given the fact that other C8 users (like 3M) have escaped such heavy legal liability, we conclude that at that time polluting without abating was a reasonable bet by DuPont’s decision makers. Thus, it was value-maximizing for DuPont to pollute..."

https://corpgov.law.harvard.edu/2017/10/17/is-pollution-value-maximizing/#more-102189

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« Reply #55 on: October 26, 2017, 09:34:19 AM »
Straight outta Kafka.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2017/10/24/judge-orders-3-uss-cole-defense-lawyers-guantanamo-they-quit.html

Guantanamo defense lawyers quit due to breach of privilege of attorney client communication.
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"They cited a cascading ethical conflict over a lack of confidence in the confidentiality of their privileged conversations with Abd al Rahim al-Nashiri at Guantanamo, but the details are classified."
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Judge won't let them.

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"But the case judge, Air Force Col. Vance Spath, wrote in an Oct. 16 order that, while Baker "purported to find good cause" to approve their leaving the case, Spath, as judge, has not. "Accordingly, Mr. Kammen, Ms. Eliades, and Ms. Spears remain counsel of record in this case, and are ordered to appear at the next scheduled hearing," Spath wrote."

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" You've got attorneys saying, 'I believe I've been released.' You've got the chief defense attorney saying, 'I have released them.' You've got a judge saying, 'I don't believe it works that way.' Who decides?"
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Kangaroo courts and show trials.

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« Reply #56 on: November 15, 2017, 07:47:40 AM »
Work the poor old folk till they die. After stealing all their money first.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/many-older-americans-are-living-a-desperate-nomadic-life-2017-11-06

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« Reply #57 on: December 05, 2017, 07:23:12 AM »
I have posted about Conn, the social security scammer, He's just been caught in hondura.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fugitive-550m-social-security-fraudster-lawyer-caught-honduras-n826501

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« Reply #58 on: January 20, 2018, 07:20:28 AM »
Some people still want to do the right thing.

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“It turned out I knew two of the three Aero principals well,” Caison said during a tour around the airport the day before the commission’s hearings convened. “These were prominent, well-respected business people in our community. Their children and mine were schoolmates. I baked their gingerbread houses for Christmas.”
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Gee, they don't look like torturers.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/17/cia-rendition-flights-north-carolina-citizens-commission

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« Reply #59 on: January 20, 2018, 08:20:00 AM »
Thanks sidd


She is either very brave or very stupid, and I have no doubt that she's as sharp as a tack.


At some point we need something like a truth and reconciliation commission. This can't be done until Gitmo and the decades of sanctioned torture have ended.
Prosecuting the guilty would cripple the country. The Nuremberg trials did nothing but prove that the victors were as unforgiving as the vanquished.


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« Reply #60 on: January 20, 2018, 08:42:59 AM »
C. S. Lewis, a keen and pitiless observer of the human condition, had this to say:

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The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" that Dickens loved to paint. It is not done even in concentration camps and labour camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices.
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This is from his preface to the Screwtape letters. There is a wonderful reading of the book by Michael Palin on youtube.

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