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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #500 on: July 09, 2018, 02:09:17 AM »

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« Reply #501 on: July 10, 2018, 03:09:27 AM »
24 hours later about 48 hours out from the NE. How crazy it is still mostly intact!


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« Reply #502 on: July 18, 2018, 02:11:10 PM »
New evacuations ordered as fire raging near Yosemite National Park grows to 12,525 acres
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A wildfire burning outside Yosemite National Park continued its push south toward nearby rural communities as hundreds of firefighters flooded into the area Tuesday.

Amid high temperatures, low humidity and light winds, the Ferguson fire has scorched 12,525 acres south of Highway 140 west of the park and was 5% contained, the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection said.

The blaze has killed one firefighter and is threatening more than 100 homes as it marches southeast along a fork of the Merced River toward Jerseydale, Mariposa Pines and Yosemite West, Cal Fire said. ...
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-ferguson-fire-spread-20180717-story.html
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« Reply #503 on: July 18, 2018, 03:22:31 PM »
”The Copernicus Earth observation programme, which gives daily updates of fires in Europe, shows more than 60 fires burning across Sweden, with sites also ablaze in Norway, Finland and Russia, including in the Arctic Circle.”

Wildfires rage in Arctic Circle as Sweden calls for help
Sweden worst hit as hot, dry summer sparks unusual number of fires, with at least 11 in the far north
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/18/sweden-calls-for-help-as-arctic-circle-hit-by-wildfires
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« Reply #504 on: July 18, 2018, 09:39:56 PM »
Detail of;
1. Fires Sweden
2. Fires Siberia
3. Fires Canada


Many fires are happening in Holland as well but we have choppers in the air and adequate response by firefighters they don't get out of hand.
One advantage of being small i guess.

Siberian times reporting that according to environmentalists, fires are being ignored/downplayed by Russian government.
We can see them for months already on satellite of course but the locals there probably don't watch Worldview....
http://siberiantimes.com/ecology/others/news/concern-over-raging-wildfires-as-smoke-from-siberia-crosses-alaska-and-canada-reaching-new-england/
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« Reply #505 on: July 19, 2018, 11:19:28 PM »
Quote from: bbr2314
The Siberian smoke plume is now covering much of NW North America. If the GFS and other models are correct the first populated areas it will impact will be southern Canada and the US Northeast. By D3-4 the GFS shows the airmass centered over the Megalopolis.

Very curious to see how much smoke makes it through. It should also be noted that this will be coincidental with a cyclone turning up the frontside of the system delivering the smoke.

NASAs take:
According to Hiren Jethva, an atmospheric scientist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, Russia's summer fires have been more intense this year than in the past. Satellite data shows that Central Russia saw 7,200 fires during the first half of July, about four times as many fires as detected during the same period between 2013 and 2017.
https://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/images/92439/from-russia-with-aerosols

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #506 on: July 21, 2018, 04:44:14 AM »
Sweden's wildfires: how this year compares with the last decade. Spot the anomaly?


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« Reply #507 on: July 21, 2018, 09:01:44 AM »
It was mentioned on the Austrian radio news yesterday, so it must be really bad.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #508 on: July 21, 2018, 10:07:52 AM »
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #509 on: July 23, 2018, 05:59:35 AM »
      Has anyone quantified/estimated the amount of heat generated by a given amount of surface area during a wildfire event?Hint-my Vermont Castings wood stove gives off 50,000 btu's of heat per hour while in use.
      50 K btu per hour for about the equivalent of a 2 sq. ft. campfire.Or another hint-a 1500 watt electric heater gives off 5000 btu's of heat per hr.How many sq ft. of sunlight in a day would that equal?
       Of course peat,tundra,and forests give off varying amounts of heat when burning.Sunlight is measured in watts per meter sq. hitting the land surface.I think that number could be around 1360 watts per m sq/day.
         So if a fire is burning in a forest that sq meter of surface is generating about 50,000 btu x5
(10.5 sq ft per meter)=250,000+/- btu per sq m per hour x4150( one acre divided by 10.5)= slightly over one billion btu per hour per acre!Vs less than  21 million btu a day of sunlight falling in a day.
           Houston are you still there?And we have another problem- thousands of acres of burning Siberian peat exhausting in sweltering plumes into the Arctic Circle each day.That heat also is part of a problem that nobody considers.The co2 and clouds keep it in the atmosphere.It is dynamically drawn to one of the coldest parts of the planet and is melting ice as I type.Large areas along the Siberian Coast are already blue water and shallow.The stage is set and we have many warm/hot days in the Arctic before this year's melt stops in the fall!
            One more point, it will not take a complete melt of the Arctic Ice Cap to generate a calamity

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #510 on: July 24, 2018, 04:11:57 AM »
At least 20 dead in Greece as wildfires rage out of control

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/23/greeks-urged-to-leave-homes-as-wildfires-spread-near-athens

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Authorities urged people to abandon their homes on Monday after high winds whipped up the worst fires for more than a decade in two areas either side of the capital, destroying properties and closing the the main motorway west to Corinth.

The majority of the victims died in their homes or their cars in Mati, a holiday resort 29km (18 miles) north-east of Athens that was devastated by a fast-moving blaze that started at around 5pm local time, government spokesman Dimitris Tzanakopoulos said early on Tuesday.

He said 88 adults and 16 children were injured, 11 of them seriously. One of the youngest victims was thought to be a six-month-old baby who died of smoke inhalation.
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« Reply #511 on: July 24, 2018, 04:35:03 AM »
At least 20 dead in Greece as wildfires rage out of control

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/23/greeks-urged-to-leave-homes-as-wildfires-spread-near-athens

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Authorities urged people to abandon their homes on Monday after high winds whipped up the worst fires for more than a decade in two areas either side of the capital, destroying properties and closing the the main motorway west to Corinth.

The majority of the victims died in their homes or their cars in Mati, a holiday resort 29km (18 miles) north-east of Athens that was devastated by a fast-moving blaze that started at around 5pm local time, government spokesman Dimitris Tzanakopoulos said early on Tuesday.

He said 88 adults and 16 children were injured, 11 of them seriously. One of the youngest victims was thought to be a six-month-old baby who died of smoke inhalation.
This image is perhaps the worst-case scenario -- a gridlocked highway and flames bearing down. What do you do? You can only run. But most people wouldn't want to lose their cars and would probably stay in their vehicles (prioritizing property over life is how we've come to this predicament in the first place). 


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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #512 on: July 24, 2018, 03:29:47 PM »
Now 60+ dead.




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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #513 on: July 24, 2018, 03:46:50 PM »
Authorities urged people to abandon their homes on Monday after high winds whipped up the worst fires for more than a decade in two areas either side of the capital, destroying properties and closing the the main motorway west to Corinth.

The majority of the victims died in their homes or their cars in Mati, a holiday resort 29km (18 miles) north-east of Athens that was devastated by a fast-moving blaze that started at around 5pm local time, government spokesman Dimitris Tzanakopoulos said early on Tuesday.

He said 88 adults and 16 children were injured, 11 of them seriously. One of the youngest victims was thought to be a six-month-old baby who died of smoke inhalation.

This image is perhaps the worst-case scenario -- a gridlocked highway and flames bearing down. What do you do? You can only run. But most people wouldn't want to lose their cars and would probably stay in their vehicles (prioritizing property over life is how we've come to this predicament in the first place). 



great post, there is a lot in what you're saying/conveying.

back to greed as always, at least as a co-factor but mostly a key-factor, greed and envy are the root of all evil said jesus and is still right  ;)


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« Reply #514 on: July 24, 2018, 06:03:27 PM »
Hundreds fled into the sea, where some drowned.  Arson is suspected.

Greece wildfires: Dozens dead in Attica region
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44932366
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #515 on: July 25, 2018, 03:59:51 AM »
Yosemite Valley will close due to fire. ‘Get yourself out of here,’ official says
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Visitors in Yosemite Valley were being asked to evacuate as fears grew that Highway 41 would become “a very dangerous place,” Reynolds said. Food supplies were expected to diminish due to the closure on Highway 41.
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The air quality has been a concern for fire and park officials. The air inside Yosemite Valley has been at hazardous levels for at least one hour a day in the past few days, Reynolds said.
http://amp.fresnobee.com/news/local/article215400735.html
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« Reply #516 on: July 26, 2018, 01:03:55 AM »
Hundreds fled into the sea, where some drowned.  Arson is suspected.

Greece wildfires: Dozens dead in Attica region
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44932366

That was the easy answer from a completely unprepared government reminiscent of 2007's fires in peloponese. No arson back then..
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« Reply #517 on: July 26, 2018, 02:40:36 AM »
Yosemite Valley will close due to fire. ‘Get yourself out of here,’ official says
I profited from such evacuation ca. 1992. Was one of the first mortals who got a back country permit after they re-opened. Eerie walk through white ashes and huge black columns of charred remains of trees. We met a bunch of weird Vietnam vets who didn't evacuate and just hid in the bushes. Else we were alone except for a ranger or two. Feeling like Ansel Adams, except it's summer... But just for one day and night.

And then the masses came in... Frightened Japanese tourists throwing all their food supplies to the bears (and grudgingly deciding to walk back), city girls cursing their slippers (but still asking about the way to Half Dome), and miffed extreme climbers reaching the top of Half Dome the hard way (bivouac in the wall) refusing our morning coffee and not even enjoying the magnificient view toward the Pacific...

If you are around, try to catch the glory of Yosemite undisturbed by crazy mass tourism.

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« Reply #518 on: July 26, 2018, 09:12:00 AM »
LOL we did once so years back. Our international airfare came with a free trip there from San Fran. Weren't sure about it as high summertime so we knew would be busy. The Valley Floor was packed (evidently equivalent of the population of my town) but we just walked a few hundred yards down various tracks & had the place almost to ourselves. Magic! Woodpeckers, a coyote crossed just ahead of us, deer, we will never forget that visit!
And that no one likes to walk more than a few yards from their cars!!  ;)

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« Reply #519 on: July 26, 2018, 09:58:29 PM »
Hundreds fled into the sea, where some drowned.  Arson is suspected.

Greece wildfires: Dozens dead in Attica region
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44932366

That was the easy answer from a completely unprepared government reminiscent of 2007's fires in peloponese. No arson back then..

Perhaps, but this time, per the article: "Fifteen fires had started simultaneously on three different fronts in Athens," said government spokesman Dimitris Tzanakopoulos.
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« Reply #520 on: July 27, 2018, 12:16:40 AM »
Hundreds fled into the sea, where some drowned.  Arson is suspected.

Greece wildfires: Dozens dead in Attica region
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44932366

That was the easy answer from a completely unprepared government reminiscent of 2007's fires in peloponese. No arson back then..

Perhaps, but this time, per the article: "Fifteen fires had started simultaneously on three different fronts in Athens," said government spokesman Dimitris Tzanakopoulos.

Climate as dry as South California, strong winds and heat, non existent fire potential alert system, irresponsible human behavior ( cigarette butts thrown outside, barbeque with strong winds etc etc) weather or accident are the first culrprits.  I would believe a spoken of a Greek government if they catch somebody. I grew up in Athens, I have the experience of 26 years of annual fire problem throughout Greece. Arson has been used to clear land for development but it has also been the goto excuse to shift blame away from the negligence and the lack of plan and preparedness..the dead deserve better than that...
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« Reply #521 on: July 27, 2018, 07:22:01 AM »
Tonight the Carr fire jumped the sacramento river and is moving rapidly into west Redding (pop 90,000) evacuation routes are gridlocked and fire effect weather and 90 degree temps are creating extremely erratic and dangerous conditions.
http://amp.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article215624595.html?__twitter_impression=true

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« Reply #522 on: July 27, 2018, 09:20:44 AM »
Wow, this looks really bad. Unconfirmed reports part of Redding CA has been destroyed. Midnight there currently so hard to know what is going down. See live link below.


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« Reply #523 on: July 27, 2018, 01:42:21 PM »
More on th Redding fire, and on the Yosemite Park fire.

Firefighters in California are battling strong winds and daytime highs of 100-110°F (38-43°C).

Raging NorCal wildfire turns deadly, forces "mass evacuations"
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/carr-fire-raging-wildfire-northern-california-turns-deadly-reaches-redding-forces-mass-evacuations/
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« Reply #524 on: July 27, 2018, 02:19:07 PM »
Quoth Very Serious MSNBC Weatherman: Imagine those firefighters with their gear working at 110°. That is insane...
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« Reply #525 on: July 27, 2018, 02:29:25 PM »
The amount of water these firefighters must drink to keep their body temperatures in operating range must be ridiculous.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #526 on: July 27, 2018, 07:50:16 PM »
Tonight the Carr fire jumped the sacramento river and is moving rapidly into west Redding (pop 90,000) evacuation routes are gridlocked and fire effect weather and 90 degree temps are creating extremely erratic and dangerous conditions.
http://amp.sacbee.com/news/state/california/fires/article215624595.html?__twitter_impression=true

“This fire is extremely dangerous and moving with no regard to what’s in its path.”

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« Reply #527 on: July 27, 2018, 09:47:18 PM »


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« Reply #528 on: July 28, 2018, 01:16:22 AM »
Multiple California fires.

“Fire fighting aircraft requests across California today are going unfilled, no state or Federal fixed wing available anywhere. #CAfire"
https://mobile.twitter.com/EPN473/status/1022968205608804352

CA Fire Scanner on Twitter: "Mendocino Co has problems - all aircraft being diverted off the #RanchFire onto the #RiverFire, unspecified why - likely due to life/structure threat. Still unable to fill on any additional air tankers."
https://mobile.twitter.com/CAFireScanner/status/1022972210192023553

ABC10 on Twitter: "No, this is not a tornado. The Carr Fire in Shasta County created this rotation updraft. #CarrFire #California”
https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC10/status/1022862397780852739
Image below, video clip at the link.

Damon Arthur on Twitter: "One of three high voltage transmission towers melted and blown over by the #CarrFire west of Redding. https://t.co/rZakIaFcDH "
https://mobile.twitter.com/damonarthur_RS/status/1022887834590445568
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CA Fire Scanner on Twitter: "#CarrFire - Latest figures reported in the media are ~45000 acres, 125 structures destroyed, 38000 people evacuated, 2 firefighters killed. Containment in the low single figures. High temps & winds continue tonight. #Redding"
https://mobile.twitter.com/CAFireScanner/status/1022990609777418240
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« Reply #529 on: July 28, 2018, 01:00:23 PM »
The Greece wildfires are the second most deadly fires this century - after the catastrophes in Australia in 2009. Times like these make me extremely angry at those who push agw/cc denial.

Close up experience - man was leaving his home went back to get his cat, stressed out couldn't open the door of his home and survived outside as the fires came over - he did get burned screaming 'fuck fuck fuck' in Greek. This is what it's really like - don't make the same mistake.



Moral of the story - when it comes to catastrophic fires (or Tornado Fires as described by CA firefighters recently) like these - Leave Early!

Aftermath english subtitles - includes very touching heroic story


West of Athens - on highway main road and beach locations - the buses were trying to get to children at summer holiday camps, they were turned back - 6000 2,000 children were in nearby camps - imagine if they didn't get out.


These fires are on the highway south of Athens in the Peloponnese region toward Kineta & Korinth plus near by beach side areas.  A relative has been driving that smoke fire ridden highway last week to get to work in Athens. Less tourists were in this region and police had more time to give warnings for people to get out of their homes and go to safe places (eg police shown in this video).



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« Reply #530 on: July 28, 2018, 01:13:25 PM »
The Greece wildfires are the second most deadly fires this century - after the catastrophes in Australia in 2009.
What about the wildfires in Portugal in 2017?

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« Reply #531 on: July 28, 2018, 01:25:09 PM »
I once drove over the Croatian highway, and there were fires ahead. There were cops on the road who were signalling us to continue driving. Those flames weren't very close, but we could feel the heat in the car. In hindsight, it was pretty scary.
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« Reply #532 on: July 28, 2018, 01:25:20 PM »
66 DEAD?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_2017_Portugal_wildfires

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« Reply #533 on: July 28, 2018, 04:53:59 PM »
The Greece wildfires are the second most deadly fires this century - after the catastrophes in Australia in 2009.
What about the wildfires in Portugal in 2017?
Yeah. It had aspects of Australia - Eucalypt fire blasts, surviving in the basement, and all... Should be in the same box as Australia 2009.
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« Reply #534 on: July 28, 2018, 05:01:25 PM »
The Greece wildfires are the second most deadly fires this century - after the catastrophes in Australia in 2009.
What about the wildfires in Portugal in 2017?

Portugal 2017 wildfire deaths: 66
Greece 2018 wildfire deaths:  87 confirmed so far, more sadly expected.

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« Reply #535 on: July 28, 2018, 08:11:05 PM »
Deadly Redding, California blaze nearly doubles in size overnight
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The Carr Fire that burned into Redding grew to 80,906 acres — around 125 square miles — and was only 5 percent contained as of Saturday morning, according to Cal Fire. On Friday, the fire was 48,312 acres.

The number of fire personnel battling the blaze also nearly doubled by Saturday, rising from 1,700 to 3,410.

“You can’t make assumptions of what the fire is going to want to do. This is a different era,” Cal Fire Division Chief Chris Anthony said Saturday. ...
https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/amp/Deadly-Redding-blaze-nearly-doubles-in-size-13113040.php

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Brian L Kahn on Twitter: "Unreal aerial view of the vortex driven by super heated air rising upwards in the middle of the #CarrFire https://t.co/FxWuflulpp"
https://mobile.twitter.com/blkahn/status/1023268342688370688
Raw video at the link.
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #536 on: July 30, 2018, 02:26:32 AM »
Dr. Daniel Swain on Twitter: "What the heck is going on with California wildfire situation? Vegetation moisture in many areas now at/near record low levels. Why? Persistently hotter than avg. temperatures, plus dry winter. Map via NW Clim. Toolbox: https://t.co/cbOMwqHBiy #CAwx #CAfire #CarrFire #RiverFire ..."
https://mobile.twitter.com/Weather_West/status/1023709829305487360
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“... This is the view from my home town in Lakeport, CA. We have fires approaching from two sides. We’ve evacuated and now just wait. #MendocinoComplexFire #riverfire”
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« Reply #537 on: July 30, 2018, 04:58:55 AM »
Deadly wildfires that razed the Greek towns of Mati and Penteli.

 The blaze that reduced the area to the east of Greece’s capital to resemble a post-apocalyptic landscape has killed 91 people, the Greek officials confirmed. The death toll is likely to rise. According to authorities, most of these people died as a result of the fire, while some drowned in the sea after fleeing the disaster.

The Greek Fire Service said that 25 people are still missing following a horrifying human and environmental disaster that hit the country’s coastline close to Athens. The wildfires that devastated the southern European country last week were described as the deadliest in Europe since 1900, which makes them the worst such disaster in more than a century, according the Centre for the Research on the Epidemiology of Disasters in Brussels.

It's raining now with minor flooding. These rains usually come in mid august and are normal at present. Seems likely a man (let's say an idiot?) up the hills decided to burn off some waste he had on his farm and this triggered the fire into nearby trees and the blaze was instantly out of control due to the high winds and prolonged heat dryness leading up to the event.

Extreme higher temps, unusual heat waves, prolonged dryness/droughts, plus high winds = catastrophic mixture all over the world now. e.g. https://activenorcal.com/the-incredible-science-behind-the-carr-fires-firenado/
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It was the first time anyone in the area had seen the devastation of a giant “Firenado” or fire vortex. And while the erratic winds aided to the intensity of the fire, it was not exactly the cause of what the untrained eye would see as a “tornado filled with fire.”

In fact, scientists are saying that the flames became so intense from hot weather and dried out areas that it created its own weather system.

“This is not what I would call a wind-driven fire,” U.S. Forest Service meteorologist Tom Rolinski told the Los Angeles Times. “It’s more of a plume-dominated fire. It creates a lot of erratic fire behavior.”

The years of a punishing drought have finally created a dangerous situation during fire season in Northern California. But no one foresaw [ Oh yes they did - too few wanted to listen ] the gigantic and terrifying flames of the Carr Fire as the end result.

I think examples like the above have occurred all over the world the last decade, and increasingly so.  What we don't have an international "science" body keeping a record and compiling all this type of information - though of course the firefighters units and fire brigades are sharing their knowledge internationally via Govt contacts/systems  .... some even traveling overseas to assist in major disasters.

While keeping in mind that heatwaves kill far more many people these fires are also destroying local communities, houses businesses and major infrastructure too. I cannot imagine how it cannot get worse the warmer it gets and regional weather becomes progressively more unstable and extreme.

PS The high death toll is also being attributed to towns of Mati and Penteli having historically a large portion of non-approved dwellings going back decades. The results of this illegal building activity that has never been corrected by govt there is very narrow streets arising 'uncontrolled' without any 'govt' input or later redesigning. Due to the high numbers of summer tourists it was very confusing how to drive out of the area and then severe congestion (logjams) in the streets occurred which naturally delayed the ability of people to evacuate the areas. iow a fast moving extreme fire in the worst possible place combined to deliver the high death toll.

the fires to the south in the Peloponnese were just as bad and furious but far less populated & congested as the Mati region east of Athens so advice by authorities and police to evacuate went much better - this is based on info parsed by greeks of the greek news but may not be 'perfect'.

Overall seems the extreme unexpected speed and the intensity of these fires is what caught most unawares. Similar to other major fires all over the world the last decade +.

Corinth south west of athens
http://www.ekathimerini.com/231018/article/ekathimerini/news/corinth-wildfire-continues-near-xylokastro
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corinth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mati,_Greece
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kineta

It's 112 kms by highway from Corinth thru Kineta, to Athens onto Mati

Mati has 'disappeared'
More than 15 fires broke out on three fronts in that part of southern Greece on Monday afternoon, according to government spokesman Dimitris Tzanakopoulos, who described the challenge to firefighters as unprecedented.
Hundreds of firefighters were deployed Monday to battle the blazes in eastern Attica (the Mati area) and Kineta in western Attica, where two fires were still active Wednesday morning.
Gusts of wind up to 120 kilometers per hour (75 mph) -- the fastest recorded in Attica in eight summers -- fanned the flames, which were further fueled by temperatures topping 37 degrees Celsius (99 F) and low humidity, creating ideal conditions for fires to spread rapidly, according to the National Observatory of Athens.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/europe/greece-wildfires-missing-intl/index.html
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #538 on: July 30, 2018, 06:56:41 PM »

“... This is the view from my home town in Lakeport, CA. We have fires approaching from two sides. We’ve evacuated and now just wait. #MendocinoComplexFire #riverfire”
https://mobile.twitter.com/jamenta/status/1023705995892015104
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The Mendocino Complex is two fires. The River Fire is currently at 21,000 acres and threatening Lakeport and Kelseyville. The Ranch Fire is currently at 35,000 acres and threatening Upper Lake. Over 10,000 people evacuated. Fire crews are stretched really thin and there isn't enough air support across the state.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #539 on: July 30, 2018, 10:58:34 PM »
Six of California's Most Destructive Wildfires Have Struck in the Past 10 Months
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The Carr Fire near Redding has joined five other large fires since Oct. 2017 on the state's 20 most destructive wildfires list. Through 7 a.m. PDT July 30, the Carr Fire had destroyed 966 structures and killed six people, ranking as the ninth most destructive wildfire.
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Justin Benedetti on Twitter: "I’m concerned for those battling fires out in CA; the weather forecast is bleak, w/ no rain modeled for N. central CA through the next 16 days. I *hope* significant advances can be made b/w Fri-Mon when higher dews advect off the pacific, & before the ridge rebuilds. #CarrFire”
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #540 on: July 31, 2018, 12:49:58 AM »
That bit about modeled precipitation is funny. We won't have any meaningful rainfall until October, at the earliest.

The Tubbs fire was horrific and the chart is somewhat misleading since the Tubbs, Atlas and Nuns (and Pocket fire, not making the list) were all at the same time in essentially the same area. It was not a fun couple of weeks.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #541 on: July 31, 2018, 07:53:55 AM »
"Google’s 2018 Statewide Fire Map for California lists all the active fires in the state for which California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (CAL FIRE) is responding. The continuously updated map is a good way for people not in the midst of the smoke to get a better understanding of the challenges currently facing the Golden State."


https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1HacmM5E2ueL-FT2c6QMVzoAmE5M19GAf&ll=40.66054230000002%2C-122.62579800000009&z=8

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« Reply #542 on: July 31, 2018, 03:14:38 PM »
How about some good news?
http://www.thejournal.ie/fires-portugal-4156266-Jul2018/

Whatever the Portugese are doing they are doing it right it seems.
They have no problems this year!

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #543 on: July 31, 2018, 07:36:24 PM »
Apocalypse 4 Real posted a summary ten days ago:  A World of Fire and Smoke - A July 20 2018 Snapshot --
from Oregon wheat field wildfires to Central African charcoal making to probably un-fightable (due to years of drought) Siberian fires.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #544 on: August 01, 2018, 12:20:23 PM »
Apocalypse 4 Real posted a summary ten days ago:  A World of Fire and Smoke - A July 20 2018 Snapshot --
from Oregon wheat field wildfires to Central African charcoal making to probably un-fightable (due to years of drought) Siberian fires.

A4R's occasional posts are always well worth reading.

Was thinking the same thing Tor.
Siberian fires will probably go on and on for who knows how long?
Much like the NW Canadian ones last year in spite of international help.
I suspect ENSO conditions play a part in where it gets real bad for those two i.e:
2016-worst fires were in Siberia during el Niño.
2017- Canada bad, Siberia somewhat less during la Niña.
2018 -Both in terrible shape during ENSO neutral
Could be wrong about that...dunno.

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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #545 on: August 03, 2018, 12:38:46 AM »
Re: Reply #528 above ( https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1368.msg164732.html#msg164732 ):

The Carr fire whirl on Thursday contained max wind speeds equivalent to an EF-3 tornado!

NWS Sacramento on Twitter: "The NWS & @CAL_FIRE Serious Accident Review Team (SART) are conducting a storm damage survey regarding the large fire whirl that occurred Thursday evening in Redding. Preliminary indicators placed max wind speeds achieved by the fire whirl in excess of 143 mph. #cawx #CarrFire”
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #546 on: August 03, 2018, 02:54:18 AM »
Wow! That is almost unbelievable.

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« Reply #547 on: August 03, 2018, 03:46:35 AM »
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Re: Wildfires
« Reply #548 on: August 05, 2018, 04:40:26 PM »
Horrific scenes


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« Reply #549 on: August 05, 2018, 09:12:55 PM »
Horrific music...  ::)
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