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« Reply #1750 on: March 08, 2017, 12:28:54 PM »
Will this news from @POTUS make you vomit too?

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« Reply #1751 on: March 08, 2017, 02:18:08 PM »
If you're done vomiting over Trump.....this will put a smile back on your face.  Pay close attention to Paul Ryan near the end of the 3 minute clip:


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« Reply #1752 on: March 08, 2017, 03:43:37 PM »
Is the wørd "treason" still in the vocabulary?
And I don't mean treason against the poor stupid who voted GOP (in the classic American death spiral of voting against their basic interests).
The "dossier" plot has now thickened enough:
This is no longer about a crazy prexy and an inept and corrupted administration of robber barons. This is about high treason. Forget Watergate.
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« Reply #1753 on: March 08, 2017, 04:48:39 PM »
This is about high treason. Forget Watergate.

Treason:

The betrayal of one's own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.

Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.

http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/treason

As I have said before.....this will make Watergate look like child's play.  They were working WITH a foreign government (not only a foreign government....but an ENEMY FOREIGN GOVERNMENT) to tip the scales in the US presidential election.  THAT....is treason.

People who have been convicted of treason in the US:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:People_convicted_of_treason_against_the_United_States

If you read through some of the stories of the 9 or so people.....several of them were journalists that produced articles that were advantageous to a foreign country (most Germany).

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Lying fake journalists.....making up stories that put an enemy in "good light".  Where would I find some fake journalists like that.....

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« Reply #1754 on: March 08, 2017, 06:17:05 PM »
The linked article indicates that Team Trump is already selling out the interests of the common American in favor of special interests like Carl Icahn's business enterprises:

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/322907-watchdog-trump-ally-icahn-violating-lobbying-rules
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« Reply #1755 on: March 08, 2017, 08:34:37 PM »
Donnie's saving grace for now....he was handed a strong economy to him:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/03/08/adp-businesses-added-booming-298000-jobs-feb/98872942/
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« Reply #1756 on: March 08, 2017, 10:49:24 PM »
This is about high treason. Forget Watergate.

Treason:

The betrayal of one's own country by waging war against it or by consciously or purposely acting to aid its enemies.

Under Article III, Section 3, of the Constitution, any person who levies war against the United States or adheres to its enemies by giving them Aid and Comfort has committed treason within the meaning of the Constitution. The term aid and comfort refers to any act that manifests a betrayal of allegiance to the United States, such as furnishing enemies with arms, troops, transportation, shelter, or classified information. If a subversive act has any tendency to weaken the power of the United States to attack or resist its enemies, aid and comfort has been given.
 

I don't really think this fits.  The US is not at war with Russia, it's not an "enemy." Something of a rival, but definitely not an enemy. 
But what really matters is whether Congress feels Trump's misdeeds rise to the level of impeachment.  That needn't be treason, just a pattern of lies could be sufficient.  We're not there yet, but give investigations some time (and give enough rope to Agent Orange to hang himself), and we'll be there before long.

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« Reply #1757 on: March 08, 2017, 11:10:23 PM »
"...just a pattern of lies ... we're not there yet..."

Wow. Exactly how many more lies does he have to tell? He tells pretty much nothing but.
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« Reply #1758 on: March 09, 2017, 03:30:01 AM »
SteveMDFP......

The US does NOT have to be at war.  I'll have more to say in several days as the whole Russia issue continues to develop further.
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« Reply #1759 on: March 09, 2017, 02:08:00 PM »
One of those lies was Trump's and Manafort's denial of having any role in and even knowledge of changing one (and only one) detail in the 2016 Republican party platform: They deleted stuff about giving weapons to Ukraine.

Now they caught some Russian guy having his fingers in this, and then someone from Trump's team confessed that thing was indeed ordered by Trump. (Note that before working for Trump Manafort worked for the Ukrainian chief kleptocrat and later Putin puppet Viktor Yanukovych.)

This story alone would be high treason almost by definition. (What ever one might think about delivering lethal weapons.)

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Some US congressmen seem to actually be doing their homework, somewhat:
https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties
Swalwell has a diagram about Trump and his team's ties to Russia. A lot of what is known is missing there, e.g. Wilbur Ross, the Bank of Cyprus (plus Deutsche Bank) and the surplus millions Trump got from the Russian "King of fertilizer" in the biggest and most suspicious real estate deal ever.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/ct-donald-trump-mansion-and-the-russian-fertilizer-king-20170306-story.html
https://www.palmerreport.com/news/dmitry-rybolovlev-who-keeps-flying-in-to-meet-donald-trump-owns-russian-money-laundering-bank/1692/

Would money laundering for Russian oligarchs count as treason?
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« Reply #1760 on: March 09, 2017, 03:10:10 PM »
One of those lies was Trump's and Manafort's denial of having any role in and even knowledge of changing one (and only one) detail in the 2016 Republican party platform: They deleted stuff about giving weapons to Ukraine.

Now they caught some Russian guy having his fingers in this, and then someone from Trump's team confessed that thing was indeed ordered by Trump. (Note that before working for Trump Manafort worked for the Ukrainian chief kleptocrat and later Putin puppet Viktor Yanukovych.)

This story alone would be high treason almost by definition. (What ever one might think about delivering lethal weapons.)

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Some US congressmen seem to actually be doing their homework, somewhat:
https://swalwell.house.gov/issues/russia-trump-his-administration-s-ties
Swalwell has a diagram about Trump and his team's ties to Russia. A lot of what is known is missing there, e.g. Wilbur Ross, the Bank of Cyprus (plus Deutsche Bank) and the surplus millions Trump got from the Russian "King of fertilizer" in the biggest and most suspicious real estate deal ever.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/realestate/ct-donald-trump-mansion-and-the-russian-fertilizer-king-20170306-story.html
https://www.palmerreport.com/news/dmitry-rybolovlev-who-keeps-flying-in-to-meet-donald-trump-owns-russian-money-laundering-bank/1692/

Would money laundering for Russian oligarchs count as treason?

I don't think any of this constitutes treason.  Russia may be a rival and trouble-maker, but it's not the "enemy."
But a President doesn't need to commit treason to be impeached.
I think the apparent money laundering for the oligarchs through eyebrow-raising real estate deals probably makes Trump personally, criminally liable under RICO statutes (Racketeering and Corrupt Organizations).  I wonder whether he'd have the audacity to issue himself and family a Presidential pardon.  Well, he certainly does have the audacity.  But I doubt it would hold up in the Supreme Court and it would create sufficient appearance of guilt that he'd definitely be impeached.

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« Reply #1761 on: March 09, 2017, 03:32:32 PM »
I don't think any of this constitutes treason.  Russia may be a rival and trouble-maker, but it's not the "enemy."

There is a reason for NATO....and it is NOT that Russia is a friend.

I DO think it is treason (people can disagree...that's OK).  But having said that...and believe that...I also know that it is UNLIKELY that THIS CONGRESS (Senate) would find him guilty of treason.

OJ Simpson was guilty of murder.....and he was found innocent.  Just because someone IS guilty of something....doesn't mean that a court will rule as such (in this case...the Senate).

Again....Trump's "poll numbers" have a long way to go....before the House would even be able to get the votes needed to bring articles of impeachment up.  And even then....the Senate is ALSO going to need to have the votes for the charge "to stick".

Long process ahead.......and it will need to be "fueled" by the public.
 
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« Reply #1762 on: March 09, 2017, 03:36:29 PM »
A diagram of Trump-Russia ties should also include actions. Like, Tillerson's dismantling of the State Dept., something obviously in favor of Putin...

All this stuff starts smelling worse and worse, like, during the long process ahead, this could mount to (ummm no I wont say that)...

Feels like me getting Trump burnout again. Need to get out of this thread again. :-)
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« Reply #1763 on: March 09, 2017, 04:58:23 PM »
I think the apparent money laundering for the oligarchs through eyebrow-raising real estate deals probably makes Trump personally, criminally liable under RICO statutes (Racketeering and Corrupt Organizations).
What if this corrupt organization IS the Russian leadership in itself? This Russian fertilizer king is directly connected to Putin, e.g. he bought him a yacht. (Yes sounds like out of a mafia movie...)

So, this huge tangle has two sides to untangle: The Trump side and the Putin side. Enough matter for a 2000 page thriller book. (That's why I have decided to not care about this any more for the next months...)
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« Reply #1764 on: March 09, 2017, 06:30:55 PM »
The RICO statute is quite broad; it was used to prosecute FIFA officials for acts which were mostly committed overseas.  There are several avenues under which Trump could reasonably be prosecuted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racketeer_Influenced_and_Corrupt_Organizations_Act

Putin is widely considered one of the wealthiest individuals in the world.  As he has only ever had a civil servant's salary, he can definitely be considered the head of a RICO organization.  The oligarchs of Russia surely can be as well. 

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« Reply #1765 on: March 09, 2017, 11:14:42 PM »
The linked Rolling Stone article is entitled: "Deep State: Inside Donald Trump's Paranoid Conspiracy Theory".

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/deep-state-inside-donald-trumps-paranoid-conspiracy-theory-w471375

Extract: "Everything you need to know about the supposed forces within the federal government that the President believes are out to get him".
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« Reply #1766 on: March 09, 2017, 11:42:01 PM »
The linked article is entitled: "This may be Donald Trump's worst deal yet". The Donald appears to specialize in questionable deals.

https://www.indy100.com/article/donald-trump-tower-rumours-corruption-azerbaijan-president-of-the-united-states-bad-deal-7617721

Extract: "This week, The New Yorker’s Adam Davidson published a remarkable investigation into Donald Trump’s allegedly suspect dealings in Azerbaijan.

An attempt by the property tycoon to develop a Trump Hotel in the capital of Batu has been scrutinised following allegations by Davidson that Mr Trump's business partners in the country may have had ties to Iran’s Revolutionary Guard."
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« Reply #1767 on: March 10, 2017, 05:04:41 AM »
The linked article is entitled: “Jeff Sessions may order independent investigation of Barack Obama’s Department of Justice”.  How long will it be before Sessions appoints a special investigator to dog bird Obama?

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/09/jeff-sessions-may-order-independent-investigation-of-barack-obamas-department-of-justice/

Extract: “If a special prosecutor finds wrongdoing, he or she will have the authority to bring charges, Sessions said.”
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« Reply #1768 on: March 10, 2017, 12:49:06 PM »
As we prepare to slog through another 12 - 18 months of Trump.....you need to keep in mind just how "out of control" Trump's ego is.  You also need to understand that Trump would do ANYTHING to win the presidency. ANYTHING.  The combination of those two things:  (1) an out of control ego, and (2) a desire to win at ALL COSTS.....is what landed Trump in the hot water he is now in.

In many ways.....he is like Lance Armstrong or any other athlete who knew that if they didn't take performance enhancing drugs....they wouldn't win.  They HAD to take the drugs.  And they would worry about concealing the history of what they did later.  But first....they had to win...at ALL COSTS.

As more and more information comes out about Michael Flynn.....Trump's ex National Security Advisor....we are getting a closer look into the total lack of ethics inside the Trump camp.  Think about that:  The guy that would become Trump's National Security Advisor......was on the payroll of Turkey WHILE FLYNN AND TRUMP WERE BADMOUTHING "PAY TO PLAY HILLARY".

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-flynn-turkey-lobbyist_us_58c1c515e4b0d1078ca55f09?mtzjx03hkp5mte29&

And keep in mind the other people AROUND Donald Trump.  None of these folks are going to win any ethics awards.

There is going to be a continual drip...drip...drip...of information from both the CIA as well as foreign intelligence in the coming months.  The roaches are going to continue to scurry out from the walls.  And when the scurrying gets hectic....someone is going to "flip".  A few of the "lower folks" from his campaign have already "flipped".  But sometime in coming months somebody of "import" will flip and provide corroboration for the many things we already know happened.  Corroboration of the Michael Flynn payments from Turkey was just the start.....




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« Reply #1769 on: March 10, 2017, 06:51:50 PM »
The linked article is entitled "Congress Warns Donald Trump: Stop Deleting Your Tweets".  Team Trump needs to learn to follow US law, or to be made to suffer the consequences.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-tweets-archived_us_58c1a8d3e4b0d1078ca51126

Extract: "By doing so, Trump and his staff may be violating federal record keeping laws".
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« Reply #1770 on: March 10, 2017, 10:49:18 PM »
The linked article is entitled: ”Sessions open to using outside counsel to investigate DOJ under Holder, Lynch".  It looks like Sessions is determined to re-direct attention from Team Trump's Russia Connections and the hacked election.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/jeff-sessions-justice-department-probe-eric-holder-loretta-lynch-235862

Extract: "Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Thursday that he would be open to bringing in an outside counselor to investigate the practices of his Department of Justice predecessors under former President Barack Obama."
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« Reply #1771 on: March 11, 2017, 03:35:28 AM »
Tick.....tick.....tick.......tick.....

Roach watch.......
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« Reply #1772 on: March 11, 2017, 06:06:22 AM »
General Flynn has a deep optics problem with the Turkey gig, and maybe more with news that he was paying the ex FBI agent involved in one of the email stories in Oct.  And by extension Trump has an optics issue with this, let alone the blow back he'll get for having Flynn as nat sec advisor while working for Turkey.  There's enough with Flynn and Sessions, and maybe Stone, to cause serious damage to the White House, even if the broader Russia suspicions don't go anywhere. 

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« Reply #1773 on: March 11, 2017, 03:17:25 PM »
Do you suppose stories like this will become more common and if so what will the POTUS's reaction to them be?
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-lawsuit-canada-court-approves-legal-case-against-us-president-a7623566.html#commentsDiv

Sarbjit Singh and Se Na Lee alleged they were sold units in Toronto's, Trump International Hotel, under false pretences.

The pair claimed they were misled to believe their investments would see returns ranging from 7.7 per cent to 20.9 per cent. Instead, they said they lost a combined C$1.2m (£732,810).

The Ontario Court of Appeal last year, sided with them in their case against Mr Trump, Talon International Development and former executives of that firm.

That decision was backed by The Supreme Court of Canada which upheld the lower court's ruling and refused to hear an appeal from the defendants. 

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« Reply #1774 on: March 11, 2017, 04:37:28 PM »
The linked article is entitled: “This week in Donald Trump’s conflicts of interest: Everything is coming up Trump”.  What I find particularly disturbing is how the GOP (including GOP voters) facilitates Trump's globe-spanning kleptoractic pattern of behavior.

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/11/this-week-in-donald-trumps-conflicts-of-interest-everything-is-coming-up-trump/

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« Reply #1775 on: March 12, 2017, 06:30:02 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/11/politics/bharara-profile-prosecutor/index.html

Preet Bharara was fired by the Trump administration after refusing to submit his resignation as requested. I didn't know much at all about this  individual until about two days ago, but as US Attorney for the southern district of New York, he earned quite an impressive reputation.

It's funny how Trump seems to show concern for the average person, but his actions tell us a completely different story. The reason he is President is because a lot working class people thought he was on their side. His actions have proven otherwise.

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« Reply #1776 on: March 13, 2017, 02:32:53 AM »
“Unfortunately, we have no alternative but to reinvest in our military and make ourselves a military power once again,” National Economic Council Director Gary Cohn said on “Fox News Sunday.”

Because Trump was going to bring world peace, and Clinton was the hawk...
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« Reply #1777 on: March 13, 2017, 03:08:33 AM »
I wonder if the state of New York is looking to add an aggressive prosecutor to their team...🤔
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« Reply #1778 on: March 13, 2017, 06:09:38 PM »
I just want to remind everyone to check their microwaves for spy's....:

http://resistancereport.com/politics/kellyanne-conway-spying-microwaves/

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« Reply #1779 on: March 13, 2017, 06:32:18 PM »
I just want to remind everyone to check their microwaves for spy's....:

http://resistancereport.com/politics/kellyanne-conway-spying-microwaves/

 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

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« Reply #1780 on: March 13, 2017, 07:07:19 PM »
Trump's approval rating dives following wiretapping claim....and healthcare bill.  Wait till more people find out that the wealthy are being given $150 billion in tax breaks.  THAT should go over well.... ;)

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/03/13/poll-trumps-approval-rating-dives-wiretap-claim-and-trumpcare/21880423/

His daily poll dropped 3 points today.....down to 42%.  His lowest daily poll has been 38% to date.  His lowest one week poll has been 40% (now at 43%).

http://www.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx
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« Reply #1781 on: March 13, 2017, 08:47:45 PM »
Keep in mind that as Mr. Market continues to climb higher.....it doesn't have ANYTHING to do with Donnie (although he will surely take credit for it ;)).

A) The dropping price of energy CONTINUES to pour money into EVERYONE's pocket around the world.  Again....as I have noted before.....this is like a permanent tax break.  And LONG TERM (very long term) it will go much....much....lower.  To be SURE...we will have periods of ups and downs....but the long term trend in power is DECIDEDLY DOWN.  So both individuals AND companies are going to benefit.

B)  The movement of interest rates is UP....which is bad for bonds, and money is coming OUT of bonds....and go into other "vessels" such as stocks, real estate, etc.

That rise in interest rates will slow down housing eventually, but don't ask me when.  No clue right now as to when that will be.  But as money moves OUT of bonds......some of that is going to go into stocks.  Meanwhile.....expect Donnie to take all the credit.

Those two things....the rise of interest rates AND the drop of energy prices.....is huge.  I mean.......UUUUUGGGGGEEEEEEEEE.

Unlike Donnie below.......

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/17/nude-donald-trump-painting-illma-gore-lawsuits


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« Reply #1782 on: March 13, 2017, 09:50:16 PM »
“I am going to take care of everybody,” said Trump in a September 2015 interview with “60 Minutes.” “I don’t care if it costs me votes or not. Everybody’s going to be taken care of much better than they’re taken care of now.”

https://www.yahoo.com/news/behind-the-congressional-budget-office-the-nonpartisan-agency-republicans-are-trashing-ahead-of-its-obamacare-replacement-report-184603210.html

What he MEANT to say is......"Everybody's going to be taken care of much better than they're taken care of now.....OR....I will give them free Tuition to Trump University." ;)

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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1783 on: March 13, 2017, 10:23:13 PM »
Due to the new healthcare bill now on the table by the Republicans.....they have decided to change the name to either Trumpdeath or Ryandeath.  Not sure which one they will use.

Trumpdeath/Ryandeath will have 24 million MORE UNINSURED than under Obamacare.

Sure glad that $150 BILLION OF TAX BREAKS FOR THE WEALTHY ARE GOING TO GOOD USE... ;)
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1784 on: March 14, 2017, 11:52:29 AM »
Here's a clip of Sean Spicer during a daily briefing.  Keep in mind the following:

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/sean-spicer-gets-heated-exchange-202639839.html

1)  We are in week 7 and the press corps during the daily briefing is now beginning to question whether Trump is "truthful".

2)  The news stations other than FOX/TRUMP.....are now calling out Trump's lies

3) Eventually.....the press corps will need to get to the point of calling out Trump's LIES during the daily briefing (instead of saying "is he being truthful").  You and I know that both of those are THE SAME THING.....but the SOUND of the word LIE is much harsher to most people.  That may be several months down the road....but it is something to watch for as this long process plays itself out.  The press corps will need to ask:

"Was he lying to us?"
"Was that a lie?"
"Why did he lie to us?"
"Is he lying to us again?"


Those are the types of statements that will be made several months down the road as Trump's lies continue to unwind.

The recently announced house bill....Trumpdeath health plan....will likely take a toll for Donnie at the polls.  Giving billionaires hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks is even going to shake few some Republican supporters.

Below we have "Donnie's Wheel Of Lies".....

http://americannewsx.com/hot-off-the-press/public-record-trump-honest-trustworthy/


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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1785 on: March 14, 2017, 01:47:40 PM »
I have said in the past that I expect TWO PRONGS of "attacks" on Trump over the coming months (12 - 18).

A)  Russia and FBI influence in US elections

B)  Global warming/Climate change issue

And I still believe those will be the two primary lines of attack against Trump.  But now we have two other lines of attack that have been forming:

C)  Business dealings/corruption in the Trump administration

D)  Deathcare (previously known in the US as healthcare. ;)

We will see how the addition of the last two will affect his polls in coming months.....

 
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1786 on: March 14, 2017, 02:04:40 PM »
Relative to "B" in the above post....this article about Elon Musk's upcoming trip to Australia...and his "bet" on fixing one of their energy "problems".....THAT is how a "revolution" gains steam.  And that revolution....is the ENERGY REVOLUTION, and it has its sights set on fossil fuels....

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/even-elon-musk-cant-believe-the-rally-of-support-behind-fixing-australian-energy-problem-2017-3
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1787 on: March 14, 2017, 06:21:25 PM »
Uh oh.......no wonder President Bannon took away Donnie's Twitter game.  Donnie's down ANOTHER 3% today in the Gallup poll.

That makes 6% over the last two days....  He's now back under 40.....at 39% approval.....and 55% disapprove.

Donnie.....go to your room....AND NO TWEETING >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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« Reply #1788 on: March 14, 2017, 07:02:14 PM »
Justice Department seeks more time on Trump "wiretap evidence."

And remember.....our friend Jeff Sessions is the Attorney General who overseas the Justice Dept.

Jeff....and others.....will continue to be digging their graves over the next year or more.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/justice-department-seeks-more-time-trump-wiretap-evidence-010445721.html
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1789 on: March 15, 2017, 02:07:09 AM »
Tick......tick.......tick......BOOM
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1790 on: March 15, 2017, 06:25:59 AM »
With Trump's approval (Gallup) now under 40% (and not accounting for fallout from the CBO feedback on the healthcare bill) and his conspiracy accusations regarding wiretapping, he needs a distraction to shift the narrative.  This could be simply more of his nonsense, or it could be something that harms people in the US or abroad.

The tax information reported this evening was most likely leaked at the direction of Trump.  It is a very narrow view of one year's top line entries (2005) without any detailed information about sources of income or the various schedules connected to a federal return.  It does not answer the larger questions regarding Trump's finances, nor satisfy the calls to release his detailed returns from recent years.

The FBI director will apparently confirm or deny if there is a Trump/Russia investigation on Wednesday.  Several court cases will also be heard in advance of the Muslim ban 2.0 going into effect on Thursday.

A very busy day ahead in the continuing melodrama of the Trump admin.

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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1791 on: March 15, 2017, 11:04:56 AM »
Here is a link to "a letter to my daughter".

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/radical-conservation/2017/mar/14/trump-and-climate-chaos-a-letter-to-my-daughter

The writer says - not climate deniers, earth devourers.
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1793 on: March 15, 2017, 12:10:21 PM »
The news to watch today will be Director Comey of the FBI who is answering questions in a Senate Subcommittee meeting today.  He will be answering the question as to whether the FBI had an investigation into Trump, and what the nature of that investigation was.  I believe it is a closed meeting not open to the public.

I would also hope....that it will answer the question of whether such investigation was at the request of the prior President.  No....Obama did NOT order any investigation.

THAT....will be where news is today.  As well....it now takes us further into the FBI issue of what the FBI knew and when...AND....why did the FBI come forward with the statements about Hillary Clinton during the campaign?  Today's meeting certainly won't be focused on that issue....but as the investigation continues to broaden, it WILL be addressed at some point.  And that is where our little weasel friend from Utah (Chaffetz) does NOT want this investigation to go.  But THAT is just a FUTURE SIDE SHOW.  Today....Russia and Trump are front and center in today's senate meeting.

The two page tax return.....likely leaked by Trump himself....is interesting, but really doesn't contain a whole lot.  He paid a low tax rate of about 25%......AND he would have paid about a 4% rate had it not been for the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT).  That IS an interesting tidbit...because Donnie wants to do away with the AMT.  The AMT was designed to make sure "well heeled folks" who have a lot of certain types of deductions...pay at least a certain amount of tax.  Had the AMT NOT been in force in 2005.....Donnie would have only paid about $5 million in tax rather than $38 million......and his federal tax rate would only have been 4%.

Donnie has made two mistakes in the last 10 days:  (1) tweeting that Obama had him wiretapped, and now (2) releasing two pages of his tax return.

While the tax return may be VERY SHORT TERM DISTRACTION.....The tax return is being pushed aside right now....because everyone knows that is NOT the main issue right now.  BUT......people are now beginning to see WHY it is so important to see ALL OF TRUMP'S TAX RETURNS:

1)  What are the sources of his revenue....and do they lead to Russia or other places of interest?
2)  We need to know what Trump's tax returns look like.....because he may be promoting tax policy that has a HUGE benefit to himself and his family.

Donnie is trying to distract folks....and it is not working.  In fact....it is working against him in the polls, and will likely lead to additional pressure for him to release ALL of his tax returns, and all the schedules behind his tax returns.

Pence is also being sucked down into the drain of what has become a lying tornado that is the Trump administration.  Before all is said and done.....Pence is at risk too.  Which would leave Tillerson.  YIIIIKKKKEEEEESSSSSS.  But that is many months.....or years....down the road.  Meanwhile.....the clock keeps ticking towards the NEXT election in November of 2018....and starting next year the Republicans may find themselves entangled in a torrent of disapproval at what Trump is doing or has done.

Something tells me this is going to be an interesting late spring and summer....  The push for a "unbiased panel" to take on the Russian/Trump investigation will continue to grow.  At the same time....support continues to grow in the public to do something about climate change.  Things are starting to come together.....and not in a good way for Donnie OR the Republicans.





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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1794 on: March 15, 2017, 05:12:28 PM »
In a post above....I had mentioned the Gallup poll on views of climate change.  Below is that poll.  Again...it is THE PUBLIC that will push on politicians to "do the right thing."
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1795 on: March 15, 2017, 06:04:13 PM »
In a post above....I had mentioned the Gallup poll on views of climate change.  Below is that poll.  Again...it is THE PUBLIC that will push on politicians to "do the right thing."

Amen....just shows what coward sorry leaders we have
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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1796 on: March 16, 2017, 04:18:21 AM »
Trump's new attempt at instituting a travel ban shot down. This must really hurt his ego.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-travel-ban-blocked_us_58c99d18e4b00705db4bc38f?

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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1797 on: March 16, 2017, 04:32:12 AM »
In the linked article "Republicans risk midterm meltdown", this is pretty much what I hope will happen. A party in the minority bands together to fight the majority, while with the Republican's now in power of both the legislative and executive branch, you would expect they would be able to make wholesale changes. What is happening appears to be the opposite. Trump keeps shooting himself in the foot, while the Senators and Congressmen have divided into different factions. While they can still do a lot of damage in the meantime, the mid-term elections in 2018 should result in net gains in Congress and possibly the Senate for the Democrats.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/obamacare-repeal-midterm-elections-236067

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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1798 on: March 16, 2017, 05:42:05 AM »
Trump is going to eliminate the funding for Meals On Wheels.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/15/us/politics/budget-epa-state-department-cuts.html

I thought I was no longer capable of surprise at how low this administration would go, but I was wrong.

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Re: The Trump Presidency (was "Presidential Poll")
« Reply #1799 on: March 16, 2017, 06:55:56 AM »
I wouldn't be surprised if people who use this service are supporters of this President. By cutting a service like this, he's cutting off his own base.