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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #300 on: August 26, 2017, 03:06:55 AM »
"This is what censorship looks like."
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #301 on: September 04, 2017, 01:29:59 PM »
This from Forbes, by no stretch a contrarian publication:

Reject This Incompetent Trump Nominee; He's Not A Scientist

President Trump has nominated a non-scientist to be the chief scientist at the U.S. Department of Agriculture. This is an outrageous slap in the face to science. It's also a slap in the face to Congress.

As I predicted back in May, Trump has tapped Sam Clovis, a former right-wing radio talk-show host and failed Senate candidate from Iowa. ProPublica, revealing the expected pick, noted that Clovis was a vocal climate change denier. Clovis has an undergraduate degree in politics and graduate training in business, but he has no formal training in science at all.

Clovis does have one qualification, though. As ProPublica pointed out, he has been a "fiery pro-Trump advocate on television." Sounds like a good candidate for a chief scientist job to me.

Fortunately (perhaps), the Senate has to approve this appointment. The Senate itself stipulated, in a bill that Congress passed in 2008, that the USDA's chief scientist (the under secretary for research, education and economics) must be appointed from among "distinguished scientists with specialized or significant experience in agricultural research, education and economics."
The law also says, just to make it crystal clear, that the under secretary "shall hold the title of chief scientist of the department."

Why is this appointment so wrong? I'll repeat what I wrote back in May:

Overseeing the USDA's research programs requires strong expertise in biological science. A non-scientist has no basis for deciding which research is going well or which questions present the most promising avenues for research. A non-scientist is simply incompetent to choose among them – and I mean this in the literal sense of the word, i.e., not having the knowledge or training to do the job. This does not mean that I think Sam Clovis is incompetent at other things; I don't know him, and he might be very capable in other areas. A non-scientist leader of a scientific agency will be incapable of using scientific expertise to set priorities and instead can make up his own priorities.

If the Senate has any backbone at all – if Republicans are willing to show that they are capable of doing something other than rubber-stamping every action of our self-absorbed, ignorant president, no matter how damaging – then they will turn down this nomination. Sam Clovis is so obviously unqualified that this should be easy to do.

Actually, if Clovis cared about the USDA's mission, he would recognize that he's the wrong man for the job and refuse the nomination. Even Dan Glickman, a former secretary of agriculture, said, "I wouldn't be qualified for that job," referring to himself (he's a lawyer), in a recent interview about Clovis' appointment. The current and previous chief scientists at the USDA have Ph.D.s and extensive scientific publication records. Clovis does not. (Note that when I wrote to Clovis in May to ask about his potential nomination, he declined to respond on the record.)

Steven Salzberg is the Bloomberg Distinguished Professor of Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science, and Biostatistics at Johns Hopkins University.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevensalzberg/2017/08/15/reject-this-incompetent-trump-appointee-hes-not-a-scientist/#6e0eef9217b1

While Clovis was a tenured professor of economics at Morningside College, a private, liberal arts college [which by and large are wonderful institutions] he holds no economics qualifications either. His bachelor's degree's in political science. He has an MBA and a PhD in public policy. So, clearly no fool, but neither an economist nor a scientist.

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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #302 on: September 08, 2017, 11:28:47 PM »
At a moment climate change is hard to ignore, the EPA is being pointed elsewhere
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Once Jan. 20 rolled around, though, the EPA was upended. President Trump nominated Oklahoma attorney general Scott Pruitt to run the agency, a man who had repeatedly sued the EPA in an effort to block its regulations targeting the oil and gas industry in his state. In an interview in March, Pruitt denied the scientific consensus that human activity was driving the warmer climate — a denial that suggested he would curtail the EPA's efforts to limit greenhouse gas emissions.

Once confirmed by the Senate, Pruitt got to work reshaping the agency in precisely that way. In April, the organization's page on climate change was removed; in May, a page focused on educating children was as well. Pruitt's the driver of a government-wide effort to question climate science by positioning it against the views of the business community. Even the EPA museum may be overhauled to play down climate change.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2017/09/07/at-a-moment-climate-change-is-hard-to-ignore-the-epa-is-being-pointed-elsewhere/
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #303 on: September 11, 2017, 04:48:01 PM »
At a moment climate change is hard to ignore, the EPA is being pointed elsewhere.
Pruitt even denies CO2 is a greenhouse gas.
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The new head of the Environmental Protection Agency said on Thursday he is not convinced that carbon dioxide from human activity is the main driver of climate change and said he wants Congress to weigh in on whether CO2 is a harmful pollutant that should be regulated.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/epa-chief-pruitt-refuses-to-link-co2-and-global-warming/

The idea that we should open a public debate about warming is equivalent to the idea that we should open a public debate about evolution. It leads the public to believe that two sides of an argument about an established fact have equivalent merit, which provides policymakers with political cover for making expedient choices in favour or their real constituency, the corporations who fund their politics.

Pruitt's a killer, every bit as anyone on death row. Conservatives would undoubtedly paint that opinion as hysterical, but how else can we describe it? History will judge him that way, for what it's worth. I doubt he gives a goddamn.
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #304 on: September 16, 2017, 03:52:24 PM »
Not just the current administration, but "wealthy conservatives, in particular petrochemical billionaire Charles Koch, teamed up with neoliberal academics with the objective... of undermining the functions of government in the United States."

The idea that climate scientists are in it for the cash has deep ideological roots
You’ll have heard that line of argument about cancer scientists, right?

The one where they’re just in it for the government grant money and that they don’t really want to find a cure, because if they did they’d be out of a job?

No, of course you haven’t. That’s because it’s ridiculous and a bit, well, vomit-inducing.

To make such an argument, you would need to be deeply cynical about people’s motives for consistently putting their own pay packets above the welfare of millions of people.

You would have to think that scientists were not motivated to help their fellow human beings, but instead were driven only by self-interest.

Suggesting that climate scientists are pushing a line about global warming because their salaries depend on it is a popular talking point that deniers love to throw around.

But why do so many “sceptics”, particularly those who form part of the organised machinery of climate science denial, feel comfortable in accusing climate scientists of only being in it for the money?

Duke University history professor Nancy MacLean suggests some answers in her new book Democracy in Chains: the Deep History of the Radical Right’s Stealth Plan for America.

The book documents how wealthy conservatives, in particular petrochemical billionaire Charles Koch, teamed up with neoliberal academics with the objective, MacLean says, of undermining the functions of government in the United States. ...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/planet-oz/2017/sep/15/the-idea-that-climate-scientists-are-in-it-for-the-cash-has-deep-ideological-roots
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #305 on: September 21, 2017, 04:40:19 PM »
The linked article makes that case members of the Trump administration are quietly unraveling a slew of policies, precedents, and regulations in ways that could make it much more difficult to plan for a low-carbon future after they’re gone.

Title: "The Paris Agreement Dispute Is a Distraction. The Real Battle Is Playing Out in the EPA."

https://theintercept.com/2017/09/20/paris-agreement-climate-change-trump-epa/
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #306 on: September 23, 2017, 12:31:32 AM »
To me, what the EPA is doing un Pruitt is obscene:

Title: "EPA asked Heartland for experts who question climate science"

https://www.eenews.net/stories/1060061307

Extract: "The Heartland Institute has found an ally in U.S. EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt as he seeks to portray climate science as a debate.

While a number of conservative think tanks employ scientists or economists to discredit mainstream climate science, the Illinois-based Heartland Institute has a stable of them. It's devoted years to crafting an alternative body of climate change research that exists outside the prevailing view of scientists. Now, President Trump's administration may give the libertarian group its greatest influence in years."
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #307 on: October 06, 2017, 04:28:59 PM »
Team Trump is steadily undermining US climate actions established by Obama:

Title: "EPA's climate rule withdrawal will include big changes to cost calculations"

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/05/epa-climate-rule-withdrawal-cost-calculations-243520

Extract: "The Trump administration will consider fundamentally limiting the way the federal government counts benefits from curbing climate change and air pollution in an upcoming proposal to rescind former President Barack Obama’s signature climate regulation, according to multiple sources familiar with recent drafts.

In nixing the Clean Power Plan, EPA will suggest changing the benefits it counts, which would bolster its arguments that the rule’s economic burdens would outweigh its gains from cleaner air, reduced illnesses and greater energy efficiency. "
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #308 on: October 12, 2017, 04:13:09 PM »
Nominee has a business background, not weather.  Or science.

President Trump has nominated Accuweather CEO Barry Myers to post of NOAA Administrator.
https://twitter.com/RyanMaue/status/918280904056897536


Trump taps AccuWeather CEO to head NOAA, breaking with precedent of nominating scientists
As NOAA administrator, Myers would be in charge of the Weather Service whose data are heavily used by his family business, based in State College, Pa.

AccuWeather has, in the past, supported measures to limit the extent to which the Weather Service can release information to the public, so that private companies could generate their own value-added products using this same information. In 2005, for example, Myers and his brother Joel gave money to then-Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), who introduced legislation aimed at curtailing government competition with private weather services.

“Barry Myers defines ‘conflict of interest,'” said Ciaran Clayton, who was communications director at NOAA in the Obama administration. “He actively lobbied to privatize the National Weather Service, which works day in and day out to protect the lives and livelihoods of millions of Americans, to benefit his own company’s bottom line.”

Myers’s appointment is strongly opposed by the labor union for the National Weather Service, the NWS Employees Organization, for this reason. “As NOAA administrator, he would be in a position to fundamentally alter the nature of weather services that NOAA provides the nation, to the benefit of his family-owned business,” said Richard Hirn, a spokesperson for the union. ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/10/12/trump-taps-barry-myers-accuweather-ceo-to-head-noaa-choice-seen-as-controversial/
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #309 on: October 12, 2017, 04:58:41 PM »
It looks like there are some people tracking the deeds of this US government. In my opinion, if it's legally possible to change the government after the next elections, most, if not all of these should be undone. Of course it's possible to construct a law, by which the right to vote of certain people is excluded. It looks like this government supports such laws.
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« Reply #310 on: October 12, 2017, 08:54:14 PM »
Nominee has a business background, not weather.  Or science.

President Trump has nominated Accuweather CEO Barry Myers to post of NOAA Administrator.

Hmm...
http://blogs.agu.org/wildwildscience/2017/10/12/roger-rabbit-no-longer-running-accuwx-now-going-run-noaa/
… and my response, (written in 2013) when Accuwx started selling snake oil 45-day weather forecasts.

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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #311 on: October 13, 2017, 09:01:56 PM »
Where do they find these people?  :o

Trump’s Pick For White House Environmental Post Once Said Coal Helped End Slavery
Former Texas regulator Kathleen Hartnett White, unsurprisingly, is a hard-line climate science denier.
President Donald Trump named Kathleen Hartnett White, a hard-line critic of climate change science, to the White House’s Council on Environmental Quality late Thursday night.

Hartnett White is a former Texas environmental regulator whose six-year tenure was marked by her vote to greenlight a new coal-fired plant over the objections of 24 Dallas-area cities and counties. She previously led the Armstrong Center for Energy & the Environment at the Texas Public Policy Foundation, an influential right-wing think tank with ties to Energy Secretary Rick Perry. ...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kathleen-hartnett-white-coal-slavery_us_59e0c0b2e4b04d1d518125a9
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #312 on: October 17, 2017, 01:18:40 AM »
You have to wonder how an administration selected by the rejection of facts [climate change deniers, birthers, conspiracy theorists] can actually govern. I guess it depends on whether they’re continuous or discontinuous contrarians. If they’re discontinuous, then at least the ones who believe the truth in one field can cover for the others who choose not to, like the apocryphal monks, feeding each other with long-handled spoons. The weakness is climate science. None of them seems to believe in that.

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« Reply #313 on: October 17, 2017, 05:17:36 AM »
You have to wonder how an administration selected by the rejection of facts [climate change deniers, birthers, conspiracy theorists] can actually govern. I guess it depends on whether they’re continuous or discontinuous contrarians. If they’re discontinuous, then at least the ones who believe the truth in one field can cover for the others who choose not to, like the apocryphal monks, feeding each other with long-handled spoons. The weakness is climate science. None of them seems to believe in that.
I think most of them agree that government is bad. And done the way they do it, it is.
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« Reply #314 on: October 18, 2017, 06:09:20 PM »
You have to wonder how an administration selected by the rejection of facts [climate change deniers, birthers, conspiracy theorists] can actually govern. I guess it depends on whether they’re continuous or discontinuous contrarians. If they’re discontinuous, then at least the ones who believe the truth in one field can cover for the others who choose not to, like the apocryphal monks, feeding each other with long-handled spoons. The weakness is climate science. None of them seems to believe in that.
I think most of them agree that government is bad. And done the way they do it, it is.
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Efficient markets also depend on real information. These people are just picking different winners. Overwhelmingly, the fossil fuel industry.

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« Reply #315 on: October 18, 2017, 06:22:21 PM »
    Trump's War on Knowledge.

“The experts are terrible,” Donald Trump said during his campaign. “Look at the mess we’re in with all these experts that we have.” It is hardly surprising, then, that his administration is over-stocked with know-nothing fundamentalists. Across the board, he has appointed amateurs who are hostile to science and sport obscurantism as a badge of honor. Accordingly, the policies they have adopted are as stultifying as they are noxious. ...
   (Article link below.)

Robert Reich - Facebook Post:
Ariel Dorfman provides a useful list of ways Trump and his administration are shortening the lives of Americans:

1. An estimated 2.3 million American construction workers, miners, and road-crew laborers face life-threatening injury and illness because the Occupational Health and Safety Administration has delayed the enforcement of rules protecting them from silica dust, which is incontrovertibly linked to increases in cancer and lung disease.

2. Deaths will rise among those who toil in shipyards and on construction sites because a regulation created by the Obama administration to reduce exposure to the carcinogen beryllium has been reversed.

3. Miners are at greater risk because inspections in coal mines to identify hazards have been curtailed.

4. Families in Appalachia will be further endangered because the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine have been ordered to stop studying how pollutants produced by mountaintop-removal mining may lead to increased rates of cancer, birth defects and respiratory disease.

5. The lives of millions will be shortened because more than 30 rules safeguarding Americans from pollution have been rolled back: they will slowly die from increased heavy metal effluents in waterways; they will die if emission standards for vehicles are relaxed; they will die because chemical spills will be more frequent and our water, air, and soil less clean.

6. More children will get ill and die if parents opt out of immunization programs encouraged by the president’s reckless promotion of the completely debunked “theory” about a link between vaccination and autism, a belief seconded by Tom Price, until recently the head of Health and Human Services, who once said that “vaccines are the equivalent of human experimentation.”

7. In addition, millions more will die prematurely because Trump by executive order has cut health insurance subsidies by $7 billion – thereby forcing insurers to raise premiums or co-payments, and making insurance unaffordable. And he is allowing insurers to offer fewer benefits, which will harm people with pre-existing health problems.

8. And a large number of children will lack the health coverage they need if the Children's Health Insurance Program runs out of money, which is soon to happen.

We are the richest nation in the world, and richer than we've ever been. This is barbaric.

What do you think?
https://www.facebook.com/RBReich/posts/1734421803237075


Trump's War on Knowledge
http://www.nybooks.com/daily/2017/10/12/trumps-war-on-knowledge/
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Re: Trump Administration Assaults on Science
« Reply #316 on: October 18, 2017, 10:14:03 PM »
That's a lot of nonsens together. It's these democrats that want to bring in more people, and more people is more polution. And if the premiums for health care were not 4500 usd a year, these children would have had a cover. In other countries they don't even pay 1000 usd a year. And we know that mining is not healty, but than we have to stop consuming. Even solar panels and windmills, electrical cars need a lot of resources, and to build and to maintain the extra houses and infrastructure for all these globalists that are on the run for their own created disasters.

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« Reply #317 on: October 18, 2017, 10:40:14 PM »
Alexander555, actually Democrats are very big on birth control access and affordability. One of the first things Republicans in office do is cut off programs that provide access to women's health abroad if it includes family planning help and advice. Empowering women has been shown to work, and it doesn't require bullying people about their all too normal and human tendency to fall and love and have children (lots of climate scientists, among others). They're obsessed with other people's sex lives, and they like fetuses because they don't have needs until they are born so they are unimaginably "pure". Once the family needs health care and support, it's bye bye baby care. And ensuring healthy children means families don't feel they have to have a ton of children as they are acculturated to do for their survival. (And yes, I do know it's more complicated than that, there are other inputs.)

Meanwhile, Trump is busy installing some industry promoters in various posts. Here's the latest on the FDA. "Mr. Trump Outdoes Himself in Picking a Conflicted Regulator"
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/17/opinion/mr-trump-outdoes-himself-in-picking-a-conflicted-regulator.html

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« Reply #318 on: October 18, 2017, 11:05:44 PM »
Sigmetnow
Your #6 actually affects my family. My wife's eldest son and his mate have produced 6 grandchildren who've never "had their shots". Reason bounces off like a cat in a puddle, they're not welcome here.
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« Reply #319 on: October 19, 2017, 07:08:55 PM »
In this age of anti-science in the U.S., here's a win for science in the state of New Mexico:

Facing Public Outcry, New Mexico Restores Evolution and Global Warming to Science Standards
Students will learn the age of the Earth, too.
New Mexico’s public education agency announced late Tuesday that it would restore references to evolution, global warming, and the age of the Earth that had been stripped out of the state’s proposed science education standards. The reversal comes after an outcry by teachers, scientists, students, and others—the culmination of which was a day-long public hearing on Monday in which scores of people spoke out against the draft standards. ...
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/10/new-mexico-reversal-science-education-standards-climate-change/
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