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« Reply #400 on: May 15, 2018, 06:54:11 AM »
A reporter's cri de coeur on the futility of western intervention:

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Two years later I was on assignment in Afghanistan ... suicide bomber attacked a Dutch convoy, killing one soldier and blowing apart a bunch of Afghan kids. They died screaming like pigs ...

Lacking large numbers of infantry, the Dutch fought back with artillery, helicopters, and warplanes. I watched a giant, 155-millimeter cannon fire into the town of Chora.

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Remember, please, how many civilians have already died in our wars. Forget the dead at your peril, because everyone has friends and family.

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Between 2001 and 2016, no fewer than 41 U.S. attacks in Somalia killed as many as 418 people ... Scores of Somali-Americans radicalized and joined terror groups including al Qaeda, Al Shabab, and ISIS

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War begets terror, every time. Don’t forget.

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Two years after exploding in Afghanistan, I found myself in northern Syria dodging potshots from Turkish border guards and barrel bombs from regime helicopter while carefully avoiding ISIS checkpoints. The war America started in Iraq had birthed a terror group. That group wandered into Syria,

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After Syria, I quit war correspondence for good ... Remember peace.

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Read the whole thing

https://www.thedailybeast.com/were-forgetting-every-lesson-from-iraq-and-afghanistan

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« Reply #401 on: May 15, 2018, 08:15:54 AM »
Pompeo is very stupid or just lying. Commits, sorta, to no regime change in NK, and then rhapsodizes about US companies in NK:

"this will be Americans coming in—private-sector Americans, not the U.S. taxpayer, private-sector Americans—helping build the energy grid"

NK would be crazy to give up nukes absent ironclad guarantee from China, which might be forthcoming since China dont want USA in SK. But nobody but China and SK will be in NK building anyting for a long time.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/13/pompeo-signals-trump-seeking-long-term-agreement-with-north-koreas-kim-in-summit.html

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2018/05/14/pompeo-u-s-promises-not-seek-regime-change-against-repressive-north-korea/


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« Reply #402 on: May 17, 2018, 07:59:54 PM »
Don't know whether to laugh or to cry: US arms in Syria go to headchoppers:

" “I communicated with Al Qaeda’s branch, Al Nusra, to protect and safely escort me and my soldiers for two hours from North Aleppo to West Aleppo,” Maj. Anas Ibrahim Obaid, better known on the battlefield as Abu Zayd, told Fox News from his home in the western Aleppo area. “In exchange, I gave them five pickup trucks and ammunition.” "

Gee, we asked em and they said they fought ISIS.

" ... the main prerequisite for inclusion in the program was proof of association with a group that had fought ISIS, the Islamic State. That was followed by a few basic questions, like, "With which faction did you fight?" and "What do you think about ISIS?" "

" ... the first batch of 54 trained fighters crossed back to Syria in July 2015 – only to be almost instantly ambushed by Al Nusra militants."

" U.S. trainers "wanted us to go into Syria without weapons because of the ambush, and said we could get the weapons inside instead. This was crazy,” Zayd recalled. “We refused.” "

" fighters charged back to their base in Turkey, demanding answers. U.S trainers took responsibility for the “flag mistake,” Zayd said, and the following day the rebels continued back to Syria."

" ... fighters who were being paid a $250 monthly salary by the Defense Department began defecting. His group of 72 shrank to just 25, he said. "

"made the arrangement to hand over the five U.S-issued trucks and scores of ammunition, in exchange for free passage and an armed escort home"

“The Americans were so angry when they found out, they cut my salary,”

Then there was Hersh's rat line out of Libya thru Turkey:

" ... operation was active along the Turkish border to Syria's north, and a Jordanian crossing in the south, referred to as the “Southern Front.” "

"Syrian opposition figures say this program was also compromised, with arms falling into the hands of ISIS or Al Nusra.  "

Some smart arms dealers got the CIA to pay em for defective weapons along the way.

" ... despite having a stated range of more than two miles, some missiles would travel no more than 150 feet."

"Al Nusra managed to steal a number of TOWs, many of which have since landed on the black market, fetching up to $30,000 apiece. "

"it is estimated that more that $1 billion was spent on the effort."

"the Defense Department acknowledged that they “clearly faced challenges”  "

No shit.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/05/15/gave-us-trucks-and-ammunition-to-al-qaeda-chaotic-us-effort-to-arm-syrian-rebels.amp.html

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« Reply #403 on: May 17, 2018, 08:13:23 PM »
Empire control weakens in afghanistan: Clearly time for another surge.

"for many Afghans, especially residents in battered Farah, the assault showed mostly that the insurgents could attack at will even against a well-entrenched government position backed up by both Afghan and American air power."

"The Taliban were wandering the Farah city streets openly without fear "

"The Taliban said that two more areas had fallen to their fighters: Jaghatu district in Ghazni Province in the country’s southeast, and Dara-e Bom in Badghis Province in the northwest"

"confirmed that government forces abandoned their defense of Dara-e Bom"


"there had been 360 soldiers and police guarding the strategic area but that all had fled without offering resistance"

This is not surprising. Why die for foreign masters ?

"insurgents now control about 14 of Afghanistan’s 407 districts, not counting their advances claimed on Wednesday, with 46 other districts under the group’s influence"

"A third of the population lives in areas controlled, influenced or contested by the Taliban"

"Two districts fell to the insurgents last week, with one of them, Tala Wa Barfak, still in Taliban hands "

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« Reply #404 on: May 17, 2018, 08:15:58 PM »
US intervention cleared from central Syria:

"Syrian government retook full control of central Syria on Wednesday as rebels and their relatives were evacuated from final pockets of territory "

"A total of 34,500 people — armed men and their families — were transferred out of the area as part of the deal, according to the Britain-based Observatory."

https://dailytimes.com.pk/240914/regime-retakes-full-control-of-central-syria-as-rebels-evacuate/

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« Reply #405 on: May 18, 2018, 07:14:35 AM »
US intervention cleared from central Syria:

"Syrian government retook full control of central Syria on Wednesday as rebels and their relatives were evacuated from final pockets of territory "

The US was never in central Syria.

The US/coalition and the Kurds control the area east of the Euphrates river, which they (almost) cleared of ISIS.
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« Reply #406 on: May 18, 2018, 07:33:00 AM »
"The US was never in central Syria."

Just supplying money and arms that wound up with the headchoppers there, right ? That line gets old after a bit.

But that's cool. Now the USA can get out of the rest of Syria too. As someone else said, more eloquently than me about other brutal  US intervention:

"just take your Puppets, your tanks, your smart weapons, your dumb politicians, your lies, your empty promises, your rapists, your sadistic torturers and go."

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/2004_05_01_riverbendblog_archive.html#108392335918002921

Just go away.

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« Reply #407 on: May 19, 2018, 07:11:35 AM »

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The report stresses that the Syrian regime has demonstrated its utter disregard for the international community and the Security Council repeatedly, as the Syrian regime carried out approximately 183 chemical attacks after Security Council Resolution 2118, 114 chemical attacks after Security Council Resolution 2209, and 58 attacks after Security Council Resolution 2235. According to the report, these attacks spanned the entirety of the Syrian lands, in both areas under the control of factions from the armed opposition as well as ISIS-held areas, and resulted in the killing of 1,461 individuals, divided into 1,397 civilians, including 185 children and 252 women (adult female), 57 armed opposition fighters, and seven captives from Syrian regime forces who were being held at an opposition prison.

http://sn4hr.org/blog/2018/05/11/52183/

Oops. Wrong thread. Oh well, just to get some perspective.
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« Reply #408 on: May 19, 2018, 09:46:46 AM »
No, it's the right thread (assuming all of it is true), as it is in large part a consequence of US intervention in the Middle East. But maybe that's too broad of a perspective.
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« Reply #409 on: May 21, 2018, 10:04:28 PM »
Trump blinks, pulls B-52s from Korea wargames:

" it took intervention from South Korea, who pointed out this was a really bad time for such an exercise, to convince President Trump to cancel it."

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/05/20/trump-bows-to-south-korea-cancels-military-exercise/

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« Reply #410 on: May 22, 2018, 04:31:32 AM »
No, it's the right thread (assuming all of it is true), as it is in large part a consequence of US intervention in the Middle East. But maybe that's too broad of a perspective.

Yes. I think that is too broad of a perspective.
Assad used chemical weapons against the Syrian people, and that was his own choice.
Not everything is the US's fault.
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« Reply #411 on: May 23, 2018, 12:51:15 AM »
Oh, no! Running outta bombs. Can't be that we're bombing too much.

" ... the industrial base of the munitions sector is particularly strained ..."

"Some suppliers have dropped out entirely ...Other key suppliers are foreign-owned ..."

" ... as the U.S. is expending munitions at a rapid rate ... "

"As to diversity in the industrial base, well ― there isn’t any, with the authors concluding that Raytheon and Lockheed Martin account for about 97 percent of the DoD’s munitions and missile procurement funding."

https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon/2018/05/22/the-us-is-running-out-of-bombs-and-it-may-soon-struggle-to-make-more/

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« Reply #412 on: May 24, 2018, 09:58:19 PM »

Six years ago, in late May 2012, I read a New York Times piece by Jo Becker and Scott Shane, “Secret ‘Kill List’ Proves a Test of Obama’s Principles and Will.” They reported that President Obama was then overseeing a “regular Tuesday counterterrorism meeting of two dozen security officials in the White House Situation Room” at which potential al-Qaeda suspects -- their biographies on sardonically named “baseball cards” -- were “nominated” for a global “kill list.” Their killings were then to be carried out by the CIA’s force of Hellfire missile-armed Predator (and later Reaper) drones, which had essentially become the president’s private air force.

Those “targeted killings” were, of course, assassinations, which should have but didn’t shock the nation. In response, I wrote this at the time: “Be assured of one thing: whichever candidate you choose at the polls in November, you aren’t just electing a president of the United States; you are also electing an assassin-in-chief.” And I pointed out that, though American presidents had long been associated with assassinations (ranging from plots against Cuba’s Fidel Castro to the deaths of Vietnamese leader Ngo Dinh Diem and Congolese Premier Patrice Lumumba, not to speak of the CIA’s vast Vietnam War-era Phoenix Program), presidents had generally tried to stay above the fray and maintain at least plausible deniability when it came to such acts. No longer. In 2012, the president of the United States took on the mantle of assassin-in-chief and, as long as that drone program continues, will be so, whether we’re talking about Donald Trump or any future president.

As I wrote then, assassination had been “thoroughly institutionalized, normalized, and bureaucratized around the figure of the president. Without the help of or any oversight from the American people or their elected representatives, he alone is now responsible for regular killings thousands of miles away, including those of civilians and even children. He is, in other words, if not a king, at least the king of American assassinations. On that score, his power is total and completely unchecked.”

In May 2018, as TomDispatch regular Rebecca Gordon reports, nothing has changed on this score, except for the worse -- and worse yet, the subject of presidential assassination isn’t even up for discussion or debate in the Trump era. It is indeed the norm. It is who our president is, whomever the American people elect -- and so, who we are. Think about that as you read Gordon’s grim report on the most recent chapters in America’s now seemingly never-ending drone wars. Tom

Trump Drones On
How Unpiloted Aircraft Expand the War on Terror
By Rebecca Gordon

They are like the camel’s nose, lifting a corner of the tent. Don’t be fooled, though. It won’t take long until the whole animal is sitting inside, sipping your tea and eating your sweets. In countries around the world -- in the Middle East, Asia Minor, Central Asia, Africa, even the Philippines -- the appearance of U.S. drones in the sky (and on the ground) is often Washington’s equivalent of the camel’s nose entering a new theater of operations in this country’s forever war against “terror.” Sometimes, however, the drones are more like the camel's tail, arriving after less visible U.S. military forces have been in an area for a while.
Trump Drones On
How Unpiloted Aircraft Expand the War on Terror
By Rebecca Gordon

They are like the camel’s nose, lifting a corner of the tent. Don’t be fooled, though. It won’t take long until the whole animal is sitting inside, sipping your tea and eating your sweets. In countries around the world -- in the Middle East, Asia Minor, Central Asia, Africa, even the Philippines -- the appearance of U.S. drones in the sky (and on the ground) is often Washington’s equivalent of the camel’s nose entering a new theater of operations in this country’s forever war against “terror.” Sometimes, however, the drones are more like the camel's tail, arriving after less visible U.S. military forces have been in an area for a while.

Scrambling for Africa

AFRICOM, the Pentagon’s Africa Command, is building Air Base 201 in Agadez, a town in the nation of Niger. The $110 million installation, which officially opens later this year, will be able to house both C-17 transport planes and MQ-9 Reaper armed drones. It will soon become the new centerpiece in an undeclared U.S. war in West Africa. Even before the base opens, armed U.S. drones are already flying from Niger’s capital, Niamey, having received permission from the Nigerien government to do so last November.
http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/176427/tomgram%3A_rebecca_gordon%2C_recognizing_the_camel%27s_nose/#more



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« Reply #413 on: May 25, 2018, 02:25:12 PM »
I don't seriously care about those drones. It is one thing to try to assassinate Fidel Castro (bad, but long time ago). It is another to assassinate bloody Al Quaeda (Boko Haram, etc.) leaders - which is good IF there aren't innocent victims around. The drone tactics costs less blood than sending in troops. Thank you, Obama, for trying to minimize bloodshed. Seriously.

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« Reply #414 on: May 26, 2018, 02:37:22 AM »
Monroe doctrine: As i remarked earlier, Venezuela at the plate, Nicaragua on deck:

"Like Venezuela, Nicaragua has become a growing concern in Washington."

"The senior administration official said the U.S is not directing the opposition, and must handle opposition groups gingerly so as not to raise government accusations of U.S. imperialism. "

Heeheehee.

"the United States is ready to act if the Ortega government doesn’t cooperate "

" late last year, the U.S. Treasury froze any U.S. assets of Nicaraguan Supreme Electoral Council President Roberto Rivas under the Global Magnitsky Act, the so-called “anti-Russia” law "

" Ortega is following the same script that Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro followed"

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article211781249.html

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« Reply #416 on: May 29, 2018, 12:12:20 AM »
Poland will pay for US troops on Polish soil:

"up to 2 billion US$"

" ... there is a “clear and present need” for Poland to have a permanent US armored division in their country ..."

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/05/27/poland-offers-2-billion-for-permanent-us-military-base/

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« Reply #417 on: May 29, 2018, 12:20:26 AM »
US lines up allies to enforce Monroe: Colombia to become NATO partner

"Colombian authorities said the partnership will help in training a military that confronts threats from transnational criminal networks and instability in neighboring Venezuela."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/colombia-becomes-nato-partner-latin-america-133553170.html

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« Reply #418 on: May 29, 2018, 12:22:24 AM »
While losing allies in SE Asia:

"These statements are far from the first from the Philippine leadership highlighting a role for the United States as the cause for China’s militarization activities"

"a problem of America is no longer a problem of the Philippines"

https://thediplomat.com/2018/02/duterte-chinas-south-china-sea-installations-aimed-at-the-united-states-not-the-philippines/

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« Reply #419 on: May 29, 2018, 05:38:17 PM »
A soldier speaks of declining morale among US troops and the causes:



"How do you motivate men and women to fight and die for a cause many of them don’t believe in, and whose purpose they can’t articulate? "

"if you think the mission your country keeps sending you on is pointless or impossible and that you’re only deploying to protect your brothers and sisters in arms from danger, then it’s not the Taliban or al-Qaeda or isis that’s trying to kill you, it’s America."

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/05/left-behind/556844/

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« Reply #420 on: May 31, 2018, 08:41:05 PM »
A simple minded flowchart for us intervention, with some examples:

https://swprs.org/us-foreign-policy/

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« Reply #421 on: May 31, 2018, 11:05:41 PM »
USA still funding killers in El Salvador:

"92 percent of investigations against these special forces – which are largely funded by the United States – are dismissed in the first 72 hours. "

"another FES officer had acted carelessly because there were witnesses to one of his murders."

""The U.S. government takes allegations of extrajudicial killings extremely seriously ..."

That last bit is funny.

https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/US-Paying-Salvadoran-Paramilitaries-To-Murder-Gang-Members-20180530-0030.html

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« Reply #422 on: May 31, 2018, 11:07:35 PM »
This will hurt, if Pakistan has the courage to go thru:

" we have to consider all options " the minister said when asked whether his country is close to shutting down the supply lines.

https://www.voanews.com/a/voa-exclusive-pakistan-mulls-blocking-us-supply-lines-/4417524.html

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« Reply #423 on: May 31, 2018, 11:09:41 PM »
India uncompliant: will trade with Iran in local currencies

"India will reportedly pay for Iranian oil in rupees "

"the payments for oil will be made through India’s state-run UCO Bank, which has no US exposure."

"Iran is India's third-largest oil supplier. India bought a record 27.2 million tons of oil from Tehran during the last financial year, which ended in March 2018. It represents a 114 percent increase on the previous year."

https://www.rt.com/business/428245-india-iran-dollar-rupee-oil/

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« Reply #424 on: June 01, 2018, 02:45:36 PM »
Assad makes many apparently true, or largely true assertions.  And a number of gross distortions.
However, nothing from him can be considered objective or unbiased.
Using his words to conclude anything about the Syrian conflict is pretty much like evaluating the merits of a car by quoting a used care salesman.

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« Reply #425 on: June 01, 2018, 03:22:58 PM »
Assad makes many apparently true, or largely true assertions.  And a number of gross distortions.
However, nothing from him can be considered objective or unbiased.
Using his words to conclude anything about the Syrian conflict is pretty much like evaluating the merits of a car by quoting a used care salesman.

Being  objective or unbiased is YOUR job.

Not Assads.

It's the job of those who post here to provide the highest-quality information, analysis, and thought.  Assad is doing his job as a despot  Our job is not to pollute this space with poor quality information.

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« Reply #426 on: June 01, 2018, 07:49:40 PM »
https://www.channel4.com/news/inside-ghouta-as-syrian-government-fully-controls-damascus-for-the-first-time-in-seven-years


“It was hell”… “We were the living dead” – the words of Syrians emerging from the years of Militant Islamist rebel control and bombardment by Syrian, Russian and Iranian forces.

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« Reply #427 on: June 02, 2018, 10:42:44 PM »
Kill 'em all. Including our own.

"Bilal Abdul Kareem, a U.S. citizen and freelance journalist, has survived five attempts on his life from targeted air-strikes. A Turkish intelligence official told Kareem that the US government is trying to kill him."

"Zaidan learned about his inclusion on the kill list from National Security Agency (NSA) documents leaked by Edward Snowden ... "

"Collyer is the same judge who, in 2014, dismissed a lawsuit filed by the families of Anwar al-Aulaqi, his son Abdulrahman al-Aulaqi and Samir Khan ... "

"In the 2014 al-Aulaqi/Khan lawsuit, Collyer considered the plaintiffs’ due process claims, but concluded the families had no remedy for their losses."

"Regarding placement on the kill list, however, one surefire way to get off is to wait until they kill you."

https://truthout.org/articles/how-do-you-get-off-the-us-kill-list/

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« Reply #428 on: June 04, 2018, 10:19:58 PM »
Peace in Syria ? Not so fast: Kill the peacemakers

"The region in which the three men were assassinated is under the control of the US-backed militant group Shabab al-Sunnah. on May 26, the group warned in an official statement that it will “punish” anyone who would attempt to contact the Damascus government to negotiate a reconciliation agreement."

" local observers believe that Shabab al-Sunnah was behind the assassination of these three members of the reconciliation committee especially that the victims were negotiating with the Damascus government."

https://southfront.org/militants-assassinate-three-figures-of-reconciliation-committee-in-southern-syria/

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« Reply #429 on: June 05, 2018, 07:23:33 AM »

Those Americans who believe that's all changed since then and never happened under Obama's watch may be experiencing a flash back memory of a room in Haight-Ashbury during the 1960s.


More like fond memories of a bygone era. 8)
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« Reply #430 on: June 05, 2018, 08:32:38 AM »
Syria: Raqqa in ruins and civilians devastated after US-led ‘war of annihilation’

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2018/06/syria-raqqa-in-ruins-and-civilians-devastated-after-us-led-war-of-annihilation/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=quote&utm_term=VGhvc2Ugd2&utm_campaign=social

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“The Coalition’s claims that its precision air campaign allowed it to bomb IS out of Raqqa while causing very few civilian casualties do not stand up to scrutiny. On the ground in Raqqa we witnessed a level of destruction comparable to anything we’ve seen in decades of covering the impact of wars.

“IS’s brutal four-year rule in Raqqa was rife with war crimes. But the violations of IS, including the use of civilians as human shields, do not relieve the Coalition of their obligations to take all feasible precautions to minimize harm to civilians. What levelled the city and killed and injured so many civilians was the US-led Coalition’s repeated use of explosive weapons in populated areas where they knew civilians were trapped. Even precision weapons are only as precise as their choice of targets.”
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« Reply #431 on: June 05, 2018, 11:25:13 PM »
US supported death squads never go out of style:

" While FES officers were executing suspects in the streets, the US government continued to fund and equip the unit. Washington’s total assistance increased from $67.9 million in 2016 to $72.7 million last year. "

“the US government takes allegations of extrajudicial killings extremely seriously,”

Of course they do. That tells them who they have to silence.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/06/05/the-salvador-option-the-us-is-once-again-supporting-death-squads-in-central-america/

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« Reply #432 on: June 11, 2018, 02:34:32 AM »
I'm not aware of better thread for it:

TheRealNews Published on Jun 10, 2018: "Embarrassing Defeat for the U. S. in Its Efforts to Expel Venezuela from the OAS"

Empire Files Published on Jun 7, 2018: "Leftist Debunks John Oliver's Venezuela Episode"


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« Reply #433 on: June 11, 2018, 09:49:53 PM »
Assad interview states some uncomfortable truths:

"The Russians were invited by the Syrian government, their existence in Syria is a legitimate existence, the same for the Iranians. While for the United States, the UK, it is illegal, it is an invasion, they are breaching the sovereignty of Syria – a sovereign country."

"the whole approach toward Syria in the West is “we have to change this government, we have to demonize this president, because they don’t suit our policies anymore."

"this is colonial policy, that’s how we see it, and this is not new. They have never changed this policy since the old way of colonialism that existed in the beginning of the 20th century and the 19th century and before, but today it’s covered by, let’s say, a new mask, or different masks."

http://syriatimes.sy/index.php/interviews/36789-president-assad-s-mail-on-sunday-interview-june-10-2018

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« Reply #434 on: June 11, 2018, 10:17:04 PM »
From 2017: detail on undermining governments in the western hemisphere. Monroe Triumphant !

"In addition to the U.S. Agency for International Development, USAID, which began in the 1960s, the newer National Endowment for Democracy, NED, and its branches such as the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, NDI, and the International Republican Institute, IRI), put tens of millions of dollars toward organizations that will carry out work in places where they would otherwise have to work covertly."

"By 2010, USAID’s budget in Ecuador exceeded US$38 million, which officials say went predominantly to anti-government groups and activities ... On Sept. 30, 2010, an attempting coup took place in Ecuador and the USAID and NED-funded groups connected with the Pachakutik party sided with the coup plotters ..."

"between 2005 and 2006, USAID redirected more than 75 percent of its investments to separatist groups in an effort to undermine the government of Evo Morales "

"In 2007 alone, USAID’s budget in Bolivia reached nearly US$120 million —much of which went to fund opposition groups"

"In Cuba, USAID was recently found to be funding operations to undermine the country’s government"

"U.S. funding for anti-Chavista group—which totaled some US$100 million between 2002 and 2011 ..."

"The NED itself has been channeling funds to opposition groups in Ecuador. In 2013, it allocated over US$1 million to various groups and programs, the vast majority undertaking activities against the Correa government."

" NED funding awarded to these groups in 2002—the year of the coup in Venezuela—was in excess of US$2 million. That same year, the U.S. State Department’s Office of Global Affairs invested US$1 million to expand and strengthen NED’s programs."

https://popularresistance.org/us-funded-ngos-new-face-of-destabilization-in-latin-america/

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« Reply #435 on: June 16, 2018, 05:08:32 AM »

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« Reply #436 on: June 16, 2018, 05:13:22 AM »
Target lists supplied for Yemeni undesirables by the Pentagon to the Saudis:

"Pentagon officials say they intend to provide growing amounts of military intelligence, including target lists, for the Saudi-led invasion force in Yemen. They argue that this is going to ultimately reduce the civilian death toll of the attack on the port."

That reminds me.

"U.S. diplomats and CIA officials provided a list of approximately 5,000 names of Communist operatives to the Indonesian Army while it was hunting down and killing members the Communist Party of Indonesia (PKI) and alleged sympathisers.[62] Martens told Kadane that "It really was a big help to the army. They probably killed a lot of people, and I probably have a lot of blood on my hands, but that's not all bad. There's a time when you have to strike hard at a decisive moment."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Indonesia#Anti-communist_purge

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« Reply #437 on: June 16, 2018, 07:54:08 AM »
From America's Finest News Source:

"If the government can’t even declare a simple war, it’s clearly time for the private sector to step in. Let’s get this show on the goddamn road.” At press time, Raytheon allies Booz Allen Hamilton, Halliburton, and the United Kingdom had announced that they would be sending weapons and ground troops to support Raytheon’s invasion of North Korea. "

https://www.theonion.com/impatient-raytheon-declares-war-on-north-korea-1826867734

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« Reply #438 on: June 18, 2018, 02:54:10 PM »
Not sure if this is posted anywhere else.

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/05/syria-airstrikes-isis-united-states/

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Fayad’s story is one of many contained in a new report by Amnesty International, an appraisal of the coalition’s four-month anti-ISIS campaign and its impact on civilians living in the city. The report, titled “War of Annihilation,” builds on earlier work by Amnesty International and others that has found that U.S.-led airstrikes have caused massive civilian casualties, and it asks whether the destruction was necessary in order to defeat the Islamic State.

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“Many people in Raqqa are asking why the coalition deemed it necessary to kill so many civilians and destroy the entire city, only to ultimately let the ISIS fighters it was targeting leave,” said Donatella Rovera, a researcher for Amnesty International who conducted field interviews in the city. “If the coalition had deemed it necessary to take certain risks that would lead to them killing civilians, but deemed those necessary risks to target ISIS fighters, why, in the end, did they decide to let the ISIS fighters withdraw from the city with impunity, taking their weapons along with them?”



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« Reply #439 on: June 20, 2018, 08:34:28 AM »
Excellent summary on US foreign policy by Ron Paul:

"This is Obama's war". "Dont mess around with our allies Al Quaeda!"

The former congressman said that it was the Russians and Assad who have nearly defeated Al-Qaeda, not the U.S.

“There’s no evidence we ever did much – it was the Russians and Assad who bought it to the point where we’re just about ready to get rid of al-Qaeda,”


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« Reply #440 on: June 21, 2018, 03:56:17 AM »
Mostly torture

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« Reply #441 on: June 21, 2018, 04:40:24 AM »
https://apnews.com/7994b4508e9c4a5eaf8a1cca9f20322f

https://apnews.com/4925f7f0fa654853bd6f2f57174179fe


MUKALLA, Yemen (AP) — Hundreds of men swept up in the hunt for al-Qaida militants have disappeared into a secret network of prisons in southern Yemen where abuse is routine and torture extreme — including the “grill,” in which the victim is tied to a spit like a roast and spun in a circle of fire, an Associated Press investigation has found.

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Several U.S. defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss the topic, told AP that American forces do participate in interrogations of detainees at locations in Yemen, provide questions for others to ask, and receive transcripts of interrogations from Emirati allies. They said U.S. senior military leaders were aware of allegations of torture at the prisons in Yemen, looked into them, but were satisfied that there had not been any abuse when U.S. forces were present.






America really loves torturing people

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« Reply #442 on: June 26, 2018, 10:37:56 PM »
An earlier attempt at pulling US troops out of South Korea by Carter was blocked by warhawks who put together a report indicating that North Korea was much stronger than assumed. Like the "team B" CIA report on the USSR under Ford and Bush the earlier.

https://thediplomat.com/2018/06/how-the-deep-state-stopped-a-us-president-from-withdrawing-us-troops-from-korea/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Team_B

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« Reply #443 on: June 26, 2018, 10:39:44 PM »
They're our headchoppers, dammit. Of course we need to keep up support.

"The Americans operate on a “don’t ask, don’t tell” basis with regard to FSA-Nusra cooperation. In a 2015 interview with this reporter, CENTCOM spokesman Lieutenant Commander Kyle Raines was quizzed about why Pentagon-vetted fighters’ weapons were showing up in Nusra hands. Raines responded: “We don’t ‘command and control’ these forces—we only ‘train and enable’ them. Who they say they’re allying with, that’s their business.” "

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/are-al-qaeda-affiliates-fighting-alongside-u-s-rebels-in-syrias-south/

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« Reply #444 on: July 08, 2018, 05:03:36 AM »
NED (and others) trundle on: Elect our thugs or we will liberate you:

"they had recently helped their political allies gain political power in Malaysia, acknowledged that they have helped train thousands of activists in Nicaragua, and speculated about the potential to create new governments in China, Russia, and North Korea."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/07/06/ned-pursues-regime-change-by-playing-the-long-game/

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« Reply #445 on: July 22, 2018, 03:59:51 AM »
Speaking of 'Faustian Bargain' it reminds me of a old Negro fable that was the inspiration of Robert 'Bob' Johnson and how he sold his soul to be "King of the Delta Blues".

I went to the crossroad, fell down on my knees
I went to the crossroad, fell down on my knees
Asked the Lord above "Have mercy, now save poor Bob, if you please"

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Robert Johnson been playing down in Yazoo City and over at Beulah trying to get back up to Helena, ride left him out on a road next to the levee, walking up the highway, guitar in his hand propped up on his shoulder. October cool night, full moon filling up the dark sky, Robert Johnson thinking about Son House preaching to him, “Put that guitar down, boy, you drivin’ people nuts.” Robert Johnson needing as always a woman and some whiskey. Big trees all around, dark and lonesome road, a crazed, poisoned dog howling and moaning in a ditch alongside the road sending electrified chills up and down Robert Johnson’s spine, coming up on a crossroads just south of Rosedale. Robert Johnson, feeling bad and lonesome, knows people up the highway in Gunnison. Can get a drink of whiskey and more up there. Man sitting off to the side of the road on a log at the crossroads says, “You’re late, Robert Johnson.” Robert Johnson drops to his knees and says, “Maybe not.”

The man stands up, tall, barrel-chested, and black as the forever-closed eyes of Robert Johnson’s stillborn baby, and walks out to the middle of the crossroads where Robert Johnson kneels. He says, “Stand up, Robert Johnson. You want to throw that guitar over there in that ditch with that hairless dog and go on back up to Robinsonville and play the harp with Willie Brown and Son, because you just another guitar player like all the rest, or you want to play that guitar like nobody ever played it before? Make a sound nobody ever heard before? You want to be the King of the Delta Blues and have all the whiskey and women you want?”

“That’s a lot of whiskey and women, Devil-Man.”

“I know you, Robert Johnson,” says the man.

Robert Johnson, feels the moonlight bearing down on his head and the back of his neck as the moon seems to be growing bigger and bigger and brighter and brighter. He feels it like the heat of the noonday sun bearing down, and the howling and moaning of the dog in the ditch penetrates his soul, coming up through his feet and the tips of his fingers through his legs and arms, settling in that big empty place beneath his breastbone causing him to shake and shudder like a man with the palsy. Robert Johnson says, “That dog gone mad.”

The man laughs. “That hound belong to me. He ain’t mad, he’s got the Blues. I got his soul in my hand.”

The dog lets out a low, long soulful moan, a howling like never heard before, rhythmic, syncopated grunts, yelps, and barks, seizing Robert Johnson like a Grand Mal, and causing the strings on his guitar to vibrate, hum, and sing with a sound dark and blue, beautiful, soulful chords and notes possessing Robert Johnson, taking him over, spinning him around, losing him inside of his own self, wasting him, lifting him up into the sky. Robert Johnson looks over in the ditch and sees the eyes of the dog reflecting the bright moonlight or, more likely so it seems to Robert Johnson, glowing on their own, a deep violet penetrating glow, and Robert Johnson knows and feels that he is staring into the eyes of a Hellhound as his body shudders from head to toe.

The man says, “The dog ain’t for sale, Robert Johnson, but the sound can be yours. That’s the sound of the Delta Blues.”

“I got to have that sound, Devil-Man. That sound is mine. Where do I sign?”

The man says, “You ain’t got a pencil, Robert Johnson. Your word is good enough. All you got to do is keep walking north. But you better be prepared. There are consequences.”

“Prepared for what, Devil-man?”

“You know where you are, Robert Johnson? You are standing in the middle of the crossroads. At midnight, that full moon is right over your head. You take one more step, you’ll be in Rosedale. You take this road to the east, you’ll get back over to Highway 61 in Cleveland, or you can turn around and go back down to Beulah or just go to the west and sit up on the levee and look at the River. But if you take one more step in the direction you’re headed, you going to be in Rosedale at midnight under this full October moon, and you are going to have the Blues like never known to this world. My left hand will be forever wrapped around your soul, and your music will possess all who hear it. That’s what’s going to happen. That’s what you better be prepared for. Your soul will belong to me. This is not just any crossroads. I put this “X” here for a reason, and I been waiting on you.”

Robert Johnson rolls his head around, his eyes upwards in their sockets to stare at the blinding light of the moon which has now completely filled tie pitch-black Delta night, piercing his right eye like a bolt of lightning as the midnight hour hits. He looks the big man squarely in the eyes and says, “Step back, Devil-Man, I’m going to Rosedale. I am the Blues.”

The man moves to one side and says, “Go on, Robert Johnson. You the King of the Delta Blues. Go on home to Rosedale. And when you get on up in town, you get you a plate of hot tamales because you going to be needing something on your stomach where you’re headed.”

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« Reply #446 on: August 04, 2018, 02:12:14 AM »
Barndollar at the national review comments that the USA should adopt the old British strategy of "Butcher and bolt."

"There are other actors in the region—Russia and Iran foremost among them—who have a vested interest in keeping the Taliban from dominating Afghanistan. If Afghanistan does revert to the control of a hostile theocracy, we retain the ability to return and punish or even overthrow a regime as quickly as we did in 2002. U.S. security policy in Afghanistan should be governed by “butcher and bolt,” not “you break it, you buy it.”  "

Quite cynical, and i sorta agree with him. The USA is doing no good there, every man's hand is against them and everyone lies to them.

I can see a scenario, where USA leaves, Ghani is hanging from a lamppost in a couple weeks, Karzai forms a southern pashtun coalition with ismail khan in Herat and makes his own peace with the Taliban. Hektamar takes  eastern provinces around Jalalabad and does the same. Dostum will probably make a bid for the north, but he is anathema to the Hazaras and Uighurs. Of the three, Karzai has the least blood on his hands, and the Pashtun listen to him. The Hektamar and Dostum are unrestrained thugs and murderers.

Churchill was on one of these "Butcher and Bolt" expeditions:

"Sir Bindon sent orders that we were to stay in the Mamund valley and lay it waste with fire and sword in vengeance. This accordingly we did, but with great precautions. We proceeded systematically, village by village, and we destroyed the houses, filled up the wells, blew down the towers, cut down the great shady trees, burned the crops and broke the reservoirs in punitive devastation. So long as the villages were in the plain, this was quite easy. The tribesmen sat on the mountains and sullenly watched the destruction of their homes and means of livelihood. When however we had to attack the villages on the sides of the mountains they resisted fiercely, and we lost for every village two or three British officers and fifteen or twenty native soldiers.  Whether it was worth it, I cannot tell. At any rate, at the end of a fortnight the valley was a desert, and honour was satisfied. "

"My Early Years"

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« Reply #447 on: August 04, 2018, 05:19:26 AM »

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« Reply #448 on: August 11, 2018, 02:02:03 PM »
What's the difference between innocent civilian war casualties on a Yemeni bus versus a MH17 airliner?

Brown vs white. It's easier to identify with tourists flying around the world.
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« Reply #449 on: August 14, 2018, 06:08:30 AM »
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