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Re: Mueller Investigation & Cohen Investigation
« Reply #100 on: May 02, 2018, 10:37:32 PM »
"Ty Cobb almost certainly will now become a witness for Mueller"

Nothing in the posted article suggests that. Is this deduction supported anywhere else ? Perhaps in other articles ?

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« Reply #101 on: May 03, 2018, 12:02:07 AM »
"Ty Cobb almost certainly will now become a witness for Mueller"

Nothing in the posted article suggests that. Is this deduction supported anywhere else ? Perhaps in other articles ?

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As Ty Cobb was on the White House payroll that means that Trump's and Cobb's interactions never enjoyed attorney-client privilege.  Thus Cobb is legally obligated to fully answer any questions that Mueller might care to ask him.  Thus it is only my logical deduction that Cobb will almost certainly become a witness for Mueller, so no I do not have links to provide to other articles.

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« Reply #102 on: May 03, 2018, 03:59:32 AM »
It looks like Trump wants to use Flood to exert more claims to Executive Privilege (i.e. authoritarianism):

Title: "Hiring Emmet Flood Signals a Big Shift for Trump's Defense"

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/hiring-emmet-flood-signals-a-big-shift-for-trumps-defense/ar-AAwEDfI?ocid=spartandhp

Extract: "On Wednesday, MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace reported that Flood’s addition to the team signals a decision to “exert executive privilege more aggressively.”

Executive privilege, when invoked, allows presidents to retain certain executive-branch communications, shielding them from Congress or the federal judiciary. The theory is that presidents require candid and unvarnished advice in order to govern effectively. But asserting executive privilege to fend off requests from Mueller would mark a dramatic shift for the White House’s legal strategy."
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« Reply #103 on: May 03, 2018, 06:56:30 AM »
Wait, what ? Ukraine did a deal, cut Mueller out ? so sad.

Anitiank missiles for silence, not so bad. Wonder what that does to the Manafort case.

"Most specifically, Ukraine’s chief prosecutor has frozen all cooperation with Robert Mueller’s investigation of President Trump. Officials readily confirm this is policy, saying that they want to avoid “irritating” Trump Administration leaders who would have a say in arms deals. "

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/05/02/ukraine-cut-off-cooperation-with-mueller-to-get-missiles-from-trump/

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« Reply #104 on: May 03, 2018, 05:19:13 PM »
Giuliani on Kushner: Men like him are ‘disposable’

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President Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, said late Wednesday that men like senior presidential adviser Jared Kushner are "disposable," but it would cross the line for the special prosecutor to go after first daughter Ivanka Trump.

"Jared is a fine man, you know that," Giuliani said on Fox News. "Men are disposable. But a fine woman like Ivanka? Come on."

Sorry Rudy ....... Ivanka is going down as well.  The whole F**KING LOT of them are going down .... right along with YOU, Nunez, Chaffetz, and a boatload of others.  The "fun part" is just now starting.

You see what happens when you get a despicable human being like Donald Trump as a "leader"?  You get him surrounded by incompetent, unethical, immoral CRAP like Guiliani, Gingrich, Devoss, and a whole host of others.  CRAPPY LEADERS ATTRACT CRAPPY FOLLOWERS.  It's "humanity 101".

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-on-kushner-men-like-him-are-%e2%80%98disposable%e2%80%99/ar-AAwGe6j?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp
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« Reply #105 on: May 03, 2018, 05:29:01 PM »
Wait, what ? Ukraine did a deal, cut Mueller out ? so sad.

Anitiank missiles for silence, not so bad. Wonder what that does to the Manafort case.

"Most specifically, Ukraine’s chief prosecutor has frozen all cooperation with Robert Mueller’s investigation of President Trump. Officials readily confirm this is policy, saying that they want to avoid “irritating” Trump Administration leaders who would have a say in arms deals. "

https://news.antiwar.com/2018/05/02/ukraine-cut-off-cooperation-with-mueller-to-get-missiles-from-trump/

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sidd,

In many of your posts you have called-out apparent abuses of power by corporate Democrats in office, but you seem to support Trump's apparent abuse of his power in his dealings with Ukraine for his own private personal benefit.  Am I to believe that you regularly maintain such apparent double standards in order to support your own tribal alignments?

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« Reply #106 on: May 03, 2018, 06:06:31 PM »
Hopefully, Michael Avenatti can obtain a copy of Trump's retainer agreement with Cohen (say during discovery) about these $35,000 per month payments in 2017, as he is best positioned to pin-down Trump's ever changing story.

Title: "Trump Says Campaign Money Played "No Roll" In Repayments For Stormy Daniels Hush Money"

https://www.buzzfeed.com/hazelshearing/trump-says-campaign-money-played-no-role-in-repayments-for?bfsplash&utm_term=.rf5XWW74Gj#.olPqzz984b

Extract: "The president admitted that his former lawyer Michael Cohen received a "monthly retainer," but said that it had "nothing to do with the campaign."

His comments come after his new lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, revealed on Wednesday that Trump agreed to pay Cohen $35,000 a month “out of his personal funds” over the course of a year-long period that began in the first few months of 2017.

“It clearly was a payment to reimburse expenses,” Giuliani told BuzzFeed News, after making the explosive announcement in an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox News Wednesday night — adding the caveat, “I’m almost certain that there wasn’t an itemized bill.”"
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« Reply #107 on: May 03, 2018, 06:16:59 PM »
Is Giuliani just adding to Trump's legal woes?

Title: "Giuliani comments on Stormy payment raise legal questions"

https://apnews.com/f84d92ab647142b0ac7b34d001baf7c7

Extract: "Giuliani’s insistence the money had nothing to do with the campaign is complicated by the fact that Daniels’ silence was secured just days before the 2016 presidential election, and as Trump was dealing with the fallout from the “Access Hollywood” tape in which he bragged about sexually assaulting women.

If the payment were wholly personal, said Richard L. Hasen, an expert in election law at the University of California, Irvine, there would be no campaign finance violations.

But Giuliani’s argument that the payment was unrelated to the campaign appears to be “pretty far-fetched” given the timing, said Andrew Herman, an attorney specializing in campaign finance law at Miller & Chevalier.

“Certainly, the argument that the government will make is that the $130,000 payment from Michael Cohen to Daniels was a loan to the Trump campaign to keep these allegations secret obviously and then Trump paying Cohen back would be a campaign expenditure” — a loan and expenditure that should have been disclosed to the Federal Election Commission, he said.

Larry Noble, general counsel of the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center, agreed the timing “is still strong evidence of it being campaign related,” as is the reimbursement.

“And if the money was funneled through the law firm as legal fees, as Giuliani suggested, it shows an intent to cover up the source of the funds,” he said.
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All campaign expenses, including payments and loans, are supposed to be disclosed to the FEC.
Hasen said the question before Wednesday had been whether Cohen had made an unreported contribution to the Trump campaign exceeding legal limits.

“If this is true, then it looks like Cohen may have made an unreported loan to the campaign rather than a contribution,” he said. That could be good news for Cohen, because it would have been up to the president or his campaign to report the loan, not up to Cohen."
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« Reply #108 on: May 03, 2018, 07:35:03 PM »
As Comey was under no DOJ requirement to tell Trump whether he was a target, or not, in the Russia investigation; if Giuliani is correct that Trump fired Comey for failing to provide this information, then this is yet another example of Trump's obstruction of justice by firing Comey for this alleged reason:

Title: "Giuliani offers new explanation of why Trump fired Comey"

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/giuliani-offers-explanation-comey-firing-54904669

Extract: "Rudy Giuliani, Trump's new attorney, said in an interview on Fox News that Trump fired Comey last year because Comey would not state "that he wasn't a target" of the special counsel's Russia investigation."
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« Reply #109 on: May 03, 2018, 07:53:52 PM »
"Lordy I hope there are tapes."

....AND WIRETAPS........ ;)
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« Reply #110 on: May 03, 2018, 08:05:46 PM »
Whether Ivanka is "a fine woman", or not, is irrelevant in the Mueller investigation.  When Mueller gets to the right point in his investigation he should call her in as a witness to testify about her knowledge of Trump's actions that are under investigation:

Title: "Giuliani Tells Hannity That Comey Is “Perverted” and He Would Defend Ivanka Trump From Mueller Like a Brave Knight"

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/giuliani-tells-hannity-that-comey-is-perverted-and-he-would-totally-defend-ivanka-trump-from-mueller-with-a-sword.html

Extract: "New Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani eased himself into the warm bubble bath that is Sean Hannity’s television program Wednesday night. Among other things, the former New York City mayor turned Trump booster managed to put the president in new legal jeopardy over the hush payment made to former porn star Stormy Daniels. Giuliani also waxed defensive on the Fox News program about the Russia investigation, James Comey, Robert Mueller, while defending the honor of “a fine woman like Ivanka.”"
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« Reply #111 on: May 03, 2018, 08:07:48 PM »
Wait, what ? Ukraine did a deal, cut Mueller out ? so sad.

Anitiank missiles for silence, not so bad. Wonder what that does to the Manafort case.
Mueller lost access to Manafort's former colleague Konstantin Kilimnik:

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow/watch/key-mueller-witness-runs-to-russia-as-ukraine-courts-trump-favor-1224600131949
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Key Mueller witness runs to Russia as Ukraine courts Trump favor
Ken Vogel, reporter for The New York Times, talks with Rachel Maddow about Paul Manafort's former colleague Konstantin Kilimnik and how a lack of cooperation from Ukraine has put him out of reach of Robert Mueller's investigation.

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« Reply #112 on: May 03, 2018, 08:09:13 PM »
" ... you seem to support Trump's apparent abuse of his power ..."

Really ? Where ? Name a single post of mine where i support Trump's apparent abuse of power.

" Am I to believe that you regularly maintain such apparent double standards in order to support your own tribal alignments?"

Am I to understand that you have not stopped beating your wife ?


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« Reply #113 on: May 03, 2018, 08:10:28 PM »
"Lordy I hope there are tapes."

....AND WIRETAPS........ ;)

For those who do not know what Buddy is referring to:

Title: "Feds tapped Cohen's phone, intercepted White House call: report"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/386082-federal-investigators-wiretapped-cohens-phones-report

Extract:  Federal investigators tapped the phone lines of President Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, according to a new report by NBC News.

The report, citing one source with direct knowledge, said at least one call between the White House and a phone line associated with Cohen was intercepted."
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« Reply #114 on: May 03, 2018, 08:12:35 PM »
" ... you seem to support Trump's apparent abuse of his power ..."

Really ? Where ? Name a single post of mine where i support Trump's apparent abuse of power.

" Am I to believe that you regularly maintain such apparent double standards in order to support your own tribal alignments?"

Am I to understand that you have not stopped beating your wife ?


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« Reply #115 on: May 03, 2018, 08:33:56 PM »
"Perhaps your dry wit was beyond my grasp."

Perhaps. More to the point, I await a reference to any post of mine supporting  Trump's apparent abuse of power.

Please cite your evidence or withdraw the accusation.

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« Reply #116 on: May 03, 2018, 09:24:48 PM »
"Perhaps your dry wit was beyond my grasp."

Perhaps. More to the point, I await a reference to any post of mine supporting  Trump's apparent abuse of power.

Please cite your evidence or withdraw the accusation.

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My assumption in your phase below is that Trump abused his governmental power to make a deal for antitank missiles with Ukraine in exchange for the Ukraine denying Mueller access to witnesses in the Mueller investigation.  If I am wrong then please clarify you it is that you think that Ukraine made a deal with.

"Wait, what ? Ukraine did a deal, cut Mueller out ? so sad."
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« Reply #117 on: May 03, 2018, 09:37:15 PM »
My assumption in your phase below is that Trump abused his governmental power to make a deal for antitank missiles with Ukraine in exchange for the Ukraine denying Mueller access to witnesses in the Mueller investigation.  If I am wrong then please clarify you it is that you think that Ukraine made a deal with.

"Wait, what ? Ukraine did a deal, cut Mueller out ? so sad."

It appears that I am not the only one who thinks that Trump bribed Ukraine with antitank missiles in exchange for the Ukraine stopping its cooperation with Mueller:

Title: "Did Trump Bribe Ukraine to Stop Cooperating With Mueller?"

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/05/trump-bornstein-mueller-questions-leaks-ukraine-missile-bribe.html

Extract: "What’s more remarkable is that the leak came from Trump’s side, so that Trump could blame the leak on Mueller.* “The president and several advisers now plan to point to the list as evidence that Mueller has strayed beyond his mandate and is overreaching,” two advisers tell the Post. The “disgraceful” leak was planted by Trump’s own staff — probably at the direction of Trump himself — in order to concoct evidence of wrongdoing by Mueller, in order to advance Trump’s claim that Mueller is supposedly setting him up.* The Trumpian dishonesty we were all engaging with merely concealed more bad faith buried at a much deeper level.

Bear this lesson in mind when you process the following. In December, the administration allowed the sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine. Supporters of the administration held up the sale as evidence that Trump could not have colluded with Russia — here he was, arming Russia’s enemy. “The year that began with the narrative of Trump-Russia collusion is ending with an unexpected plot twist — the Trump administration is confronting and cracking down on Russia,” reported Fox News. The Wall Street Journal editorial page mocked “people who say President Trump colluded with Mr. Putin to win the election and wants to appease him now.” Skeptics merely saw the sale as evidence that the foreign policy bureaucracy operated at some distance from Trump’s whims.

Today’s New York Times suggests a darker interpretation altogether. In response to the missile sale, Ukrainian officials have frozen out the Mueller investigation. Ukraine’s government had previously cooperated eagerly to expose the Trump campaign’s ties to Russia — providing, among other importance evidence, ledgers detailing payments to Paul Manafort by the Russian-backed Ukrainian party he had advised.

Now Ukraine is withholding cooperation from Mueller, and Ukrainian officials are not even hiding the fact that they’re doing so because of the missile sale. “In every possible way, we will avoid irritating the top American officials,” one Ukrainian lawmaker says. “We shouldn’t spoil relations with the administration.”"
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« Reply #118 on: May 03, 2018, 09:45:20 PM »
It appears that Trump only gave Ukraine the antitank missiles after Ukraine decided to stop cooperating with Mueller.

Title: "MSNBC's Rachel Maddow Unpacks the Wild Story of How Ukraine Thwarted Mueller to Win Favor with Trump"

https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/msnbcs-rachel-maddow-unpacks-wild-story-how-ukraine-thwarted-mueller-win-favor

Extract: "The country decided to stop participating in the special counsel's investigation — and then the U.S. government decided to offer military assistance."
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« Reply #119 on: May 03, 2018, 09:47:46 PM »
such a pity that repeatedly, else great minds, start to bang their respective heads over non-sense, non-important petty things, mostly based on hurt feelings.

i mentioned this elsewhere but this is why until today "satan" wins, because all the daemons pull the same strings until very late in the game, only the end game makes them beat each other to death, while the "good boys" are often so much "holier-than-thou" based on petty motives, that they start fighting each other often before one was able to finish his first full sentence.

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« Reply #120 on: May 03, 2018, 10:25:53 PM »
We shouldn't be arming Ukraine, and we should not have believed any of their tales about their avowed enemy Russia.


Without Obama's Victoria, Fu*k the EU Numan, there would be no western leaning Ukraine. In fact Crimeans would still be bristling under their Ukrainian yoke. That they would turn on their erstwhile supporters comes as no great surprise. Nazi's have never been seen as reliable partners.


How many times did their national hero Stepan Bandera switch sides?
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« Reply #121 on: May 03, 2018, 10:27:27 PM »
Mr AbruptSLR writes:

"My assumption in your phase below is that Trump abused his governmental power to make a deal for antitank missiles with Ukraine in exchange for the Ukraine denying Mueller access to witnesses in the Mueller investigation.  If I am wrong then please clarify you it is that you think that Ukraine made a deal with."

I wrote:

"Wait, what ? Ukraine did a deal, cut Mueller out ? so sad."

Precisely where in my statement do i express approval of Ukraine's actions ? Or of Trump's ?

I repeat: you accused me of supporting Trump. Please cite evidence in support or withdraw the accusation.

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« Reply #122 on: May 03, 2018, 10:43:06 PM »
Precisely where in my statement do i express approval of Ukraine's actions ? Or of Trump's ?


sidd,

Your wrote: "Anitiank missiles for silence, not so bad." sic

To me this indicates your approval of the deal that Ukraine cut with Trump, and by extension your approval of Trump's abuse of his presidential power for his personal benefit.

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« Reply #123 on: May 03, 2018, 11:16:46 PM »
My complete posting (excluding the link and the quotation from it) was:

"Wait, what ? Ukraine did a deal, cut Mueller out ? so sad.

Anitiank missiles for silence, not so bad. Wonder what that does to the Manafort case."

The phrase "not so bad" refers to the merits of the putative deal for Ukraine and not my approval or disapproval. Your interpretation

"To me this indicates your approval of the deal that Ukraine cut with Trump, and by extension your approval of Trump's abuse of his presidential power for his personal benefit."

is erroneous.

For example, I have stated before that refusal to prosecute bankers and bailout of bankers after 2008 debacle was a great deal for the banks. It would, however, be very far from the truth to take the statement to mean i approved of the deal.

For the record, as I have stated before, I am not now, nor ever have been a Trump supporter.

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« Reply #124 on: May 03, 2018, 11:53:43 PM »
Feds had a pen register on Cohen's phone, covertly searched his emails. Cohen showing no signs of flipping yet.

" calls are logged by a machine called a pen register, which records the number of the phone that made the call and the number that received it "

"federal prosecutors in New York have said in court filings that they have conducted covert searches on multiple e-mail accounts maintained by Cohen."

"Cohen has previously said publicly that he would invoke his Fifth Amendment rights if subpoenaed to avoid incriminating himself before a grand jury and there is no indication from public filings that Cohen is cooperating in the probe."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/feds-tapped-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-s-phones-n871011

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« Reply #125 on: May 04, 2018, 12:29:16 AM »
We shouldn't be arming Ukraine, and we should not have believed any of their tales about their avowed enemy Russia.


Without Obama's Victoria, Fu*k the EU Numan, there would be no western leaning Ukraine. In fact Crimeans would still be bristling under their Ukrainian yoke. That they would turn on their erstwhile supporters comes as no great surprise. Nazi's have never been seen as reliable partners.


How many times did their national hero Stepan Bandera switch sides?
Terry

Classic. Russian. Propaganda.

F-ing time for a "dislike" button!

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« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2018, 12:48:33 AM »
The phrase "not so bad" refers to the merits of the putative deal for Ukraine and not my approval or disapproval.

Thank you for the clarification regarding my misinterpretation.
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« Reply #127 on: May 04, 2018, 01:15:36 AM »

Classic. Russian. Propaganda.

F-ing time for a "dislike" button!
Sooo You believe that Trump did the right thing in sending additional arms to the Ukraine?
You don't believe Vicky was handing out cookies, or making off color remarks to her colleges?
You think the Crimea was happy under Ukrainian rule?
You don't believe that people who march under the SS flags and honor Bandera are Nazis?
or you think that Bandera was known for picking a side and sticking to it.


It ain't propaganda when it's the truth. 8)
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« Reply #128 on: May 04, 2018, 04:04:36 PM »
Maybe the linked website to the Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell changes its content daily, but on May 3, 2018, the site presents a discussion where Avenatti indicates that there is evidence that Cohen's payment of $130,000 to Daniels was tied to the 2016 election.  As Trump claims that he reimbursed Cohen for this payment, that means that he needed to report this campaign contribution but he did not.

Title: "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell"

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word

Extract: "Michael Avenatti tells Lawrence there were “extensive communications” between Michael Cohen & Stormy Daniels’ first lawyer that the payment to her had to be made in advance 2016 election."
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« Reply #129 on: May 04, 2018, 04:20:48 PM »
Team Trump appears to have concluded that Mueller will not indict a sitting president, but instead will refer charges to Congress; which is why Giuliani is now leading a media blitz intended to politically bias/influence the Congressmen that will be voting on this guilt or innocence.

Title: "Trump's Russia strategy: Bash Mueller to beat impeachment"

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/03/trump-lawyers-mueller-russia-probe-strategy-568481

Extract: "Trump’s legal team — now led by a talkative Rudy Giuliani — increasingly sees its goal as fighting potential impeachment proceedings by a Democratic-controlled Congress next year, according to multiple sources close to the White House."
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« Reply #130 on: May 04, 2018, 04:26:10 PM »
We shouldn't be arming Ukraine, and we should not have believed any of their tales about their avowed enemy Russia.


Without Obama's Victoria, Fu*k the EU Numan, there would be no western leaning Ukraine. In fact Crimeans would still be bristling under their Ukrainian yoke. That they would turn on their erstwhile supporters comes as no great surprise. Nazi's have never been seen as reliable partners.


How many times did their national hero Stepan Bandera switch sides?
Terry

Classic. Russian. Propaganda.

F-ing time for a "dislike" button!

Yes I added a like because Russian propaganda is even more worse than Western propaganda.

I would also like to add a 3/4 like to Sidd's Reply 123 above.

Because Sidd Your certainly not deplorable and in this case I think your reply was misinterpreted.



 
 

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« Reply #131 on: May 04, 2018, 04:42:10 PM »
Since 1973, the Justice Department’s Office of Legal Counsel has maintained a policy that a sitting president may not be prosecuted; however, this raises the question of whether Trump could be indicted by Mueller but then not tried.  This is any important issue because a indictment could make public the reasons for the indictment; whereas if Trump fires Rosenstein then his replacement could just file Mueller's report without making it public or passing it on to Congress.

Title: "A sitting president can be indicted, says former acting solicitor general"

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/28/politics/walter-dellinger-president-can-be-indicted-don-lemon-cnntv/index.html

Extract: ""Although the thoughtful opinion from the Office of Legal Counsel is persuasive in establishing that a president cannot be put on trial, it addresses only briefly the question of whether he could simply be indicted but not tried," he wrote in The New York Times op-ed.
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« Reply #132 on: May 04, 2018, 05:48:57 PM »
Trump reportedly paid total 'Retainer' fees of $420,000 in 2017 to Cohen; which Giuliani implied covered 'Reimbursement' of the $130,000 that Cohen paid Daniels; however, the law indicates a 'Retainer' cannot be used to cover 'Reimbursement'.

Title: "Legal Tip for Trump: A 'Retainer' Isn't a 'Reimbursement"

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-03/trump-giuliani-hatch-new-theory-on-stormy-daniels-payments
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« Reply #133 on: May 04, 2018, 06:00:59 PM »
When Mueller finally presents clear facts about his obstruction case, Trump may well be surprised that his weak theories about executive privilege don't hold water:

Title: "Trump Is Doubling Down on a Self-Destructive Strategy"

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-03/trump-is-doubling-down-on-a-faulty-strategy-on-obstruction

Extract: "His claim that the president can't be impeached for obstruction won't hold up"
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« Reply #134 on: May 04, 2018, 06:09:12 PM »
Flood will eventually replace McGahn as the White House counsel, which means that Mueller's team could question Flood about the president in ways that would not be protected by attorney–client privilege (I note that McGahn is already a witness for Mueller).

Title: "White House counsel expected to exit: report"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/386199-white-house-counsel-expected-to-exit-report

Extract: "White House counsel Don McGahn is expected to exit the Trump administration in the upcoming months and could be replaced by Emmet Flood, the president's newest addition to his legal team, The Associated Press reported.

Flood was hired to Trump's legal team this week to replace outgoing lawyer Ty Cobb, who up until now has been Trump's point person for special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russian meddling in the presidential election.

McGahn, who is a witness in Mueller's ongoing investigation and therefore has not been involved in the White House response, has privately lobbied for Flood to be added to the team for months, the AP reported.

But joining the White House to replace McGahn would make Flood an official government employee, meaning Mueller's team could question him about the president in ways that would not be protected by attorney–client privilege."
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« Reply #135 on: May 04, 2018, 08:21:53 PM »
While the judge's questions do not necessarily indicate how he will rule on the defense's motion to dismiss charges against Manafort; nevertheless, they do put Team Mueller in a defensive mode:

Title: "Manafort Judge Asks If Mueller Overstepped His Authority"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-05-04/manafort-judge-questions-if-mueller-overstepped-his-authority
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« Reply #136 on: May 04, 2018, 10:01:21 PM »
If Mueller nails Erik Prince, that would put an end to such shady business deals as that discussed in the linked article:

Title: "Blackwater's Erik Prince under scrutiny for China ties"

https://www.axios.com/blackwater-erik-prince-china-firm-4beb5a79-7230-4c21-99b1-0aad4d1bdf2d.html?utm_source=sidebar

Extract: "According to the Post, there's a concern that Prince, who is of interest to special counsel Robert Mueller and has ties to the Trump administration, is "advancing the strategic agenda of the United States' largest rival.""
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« Reply #137 on: May 05, 2018, 02:57:46 AM »
That Manafort judge is pissed off. Wonder if there's some history there with Drebeen or Mueller.


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« Reply #138 on: May 05, 2018, 04:39:44 AM »
I read a hit piece on Muller who apparently has been pissing certain people off for a very long time. At least one member of the Judicial Committee has been after him since his days of playing nice with Whitey Bulger in Boston.
Ether that or he's presenting a weak case?


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« Reply #139 on: May 05, 2018, 05:22:28 AM »
Look, more russia:

"Investigators stopped the Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg at a New York-area airport after he stepped off a private plane, according to the Times. They proceeded to search his electronic devices and question him. "

"Vekselberg attended President Trump's inauguration in January 2017. His ticket to the event was given to him by his cousin Andrew Intrater, an American businessman who donated to Trump's inauguration,"

"Vekselberg was also present at a 2015 dinner in Russia that was attended by former national security adviser Michael Flynn and Russian President Vladimir Putin. "

"Vekselberg was among several Russian individuals and entities that were hit with U.S. sanctions last month "

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/386297-muellers-team-questioned-russian-billionaire-who-attended-trump

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« Reply #140 on: May 05, 2018, 05:25:14 AM »
Ooo, look.Prigozhin lawyers showed up:

"a pair of Washington-area lawyers suddenly surfaced in the case, notifying the court that they represent Concord Management. "

"On Friday, Mueller’s prosecutors disclosed that Concord’s attorneys, Eric Dubelier and Kate Seikaly, had made a slew of discovery requests demanding nonpublic details about the case and the investigation. Prosecutors also asked a judge to postpone the formal arraignment of Concord Management set for next week."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627

Concord:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concord_Management_and_Consulting

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« Reply #141 on: May 05, 2018, 07:06:06 AM »
In California at least, showing up in court is enough to demonstrate that the service was made and was legal.
From an old dog that avoided them for close to five years.
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« Reply #142 on: May 05, 2018, 08:36:32 PM »
More history on Judge Ellis: he handled Lindh, Franklin, AIPAC trials. And another titbit, mentions takin the Manafort case away from Mueller and returning it to Eastern District of Virginia. Manafort attorney is for that:

"Manafort’s attorney Downing indicated his support for such a move, which would end any leverage by the special counsel over  his client."

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/05/05/trum-m05.html

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« Reply #143 on: May 06, 2018, 11:00:31 PM »
Mueller is having no luck with judges: request for delay in russian internet troll case denied. This judge is a Trump appointee.

"In a brief order Saturday evening, U.S. District Court Judge Dabney Friedrich offered no explanation for her decision to deny a request prosecutors made Friday to put off the scheduled Wednesday arraignment for Concord Management and Consulting, one of the three firms charged in the case."

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/04/mueller-russia-interference-election-case-delay-570627

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« Reply #144 on: May 06, 2018, 11:06:54 PM »
That Manafort judge is pissed off. Wonder if there's some history there with Drebeen or Mueller.


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It looks to me to be more the case that Judge Ellis is gun shy of political hot potatoes being tried within his court room.  At best Ellis is just venting steam before doing the right thing and letting the case continue in his court; at worse Ellis would transfer the case to a jurisdiction outside of Mueller's direct responsibility (which would keep Manafort in the hot seat anyway).
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« Reply #145 on: May 07, 2018, 12:00:07 AM »
Anerica's Finest News Source:

"Mueller posed as a Fox News host Thursday to coax Rudy Giuliani into giving him a testimony on Trump"

"At press time, Mueller had welcomed President Trump, who called in to the show to give a statement confirming everything Giuliani had just said."

https://politics.theonion.com/mueller-poses-as-fox-news-host-to-coax-rudy-giuliani-in-1825782607

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« Reply #146 on: May 07, 2018, 09:55:05 AM »
Anerica's Finest News Source:

"Mueller posed as a Fox News host Thursday to coax Rudy Giuliani into giving him a testimony on Trump"

"At press time, Mueller had welcomed President Trump, who called in to the show to give a statement confirming everything Giuliani had just said."

https://politics.theonion.com/mueller-poses-as-fox-news-host-to-coax-rudy-giuliani-in-1825782607

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Please stop posting links to stories from The Onion.
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« Reply #147 on: May 07, 2018, 09:55:25 AM »
Here is a link to a partial list of people connected to the Russia probe:

Title: "The 315 people connected to the Russia probes"

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2018/trump-russia-investigation-ties/
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« Reply #148 on: May 07, 2018, 01:22:23 PM »
We should expect the Donald Trump "runaway beer truck" routine to continue and even accelerate over the coming months.  There is still a LOT more of the "serious stuff" to come out.  And I expect the outlandish lies to continue unabated.

Going to be a fascinating summer of courtroom drama and political drama.  Donnie is going to snap at some point ..... he can't help it.  Remember ...... he is a sociopath.

I wonder what McMaster will do in coming weeks.  He has been extremely quiet since he was pushed out of office.  Will he remain quiet?  I EXPECT that Tillerson won't say much of anything.  He is still HOPING that Trump might give him a pardon for Tillerson's part in lying about Mobile's effect on global warming over the past few decades.  But will McMaster come out at some point and be critical of Trump?  If things continue to worsen in the Trump Oval Office ...... I think there is a good chance that he may come out and be critical of Trump.  We'll see....

We are likely within a couple weeks of Mueller handing a subpoena to Traitor Donnie.  And then Donnie can plead the 5th amendment ...... just like his mobster friends.



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« Reply #149 on: May 07, 2018, 01:50:04 PM »
I think the Giuliani strategy (if there is one at all) is to try to throw sand in Mueller and everyone else's eyes. Create enough confusion and stories and counter stories, and pretty soon almost no one can be bothered to follow all the contortions.
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