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Re: The Dems blow the election again
« Reply #100 on: May 24, 2018, 08:28:04 PM »

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Re: The Dems blow the election again
« Reply #101 on: May 24, 2018, 10:15:44 PM »
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OT perhaps - But thanks a lot for making me aware of Kathleen Dean Moore! She speaks my mind. (Though it's not my season to delve into moral philosophy - that's for winter...)

Seems we don't have a "Climate/Planetary Ethics" thread? If not, I'm tempted to open one (would be the perhaps most important non-Arctic thread here :) ) where I would start with Aldo Leopold's land ethic maxim - except I'm a bit busy right now.

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« Reply #102 on: May 24, 2018, 10:18:34 PM »
Off-topic, but very nice, thanks. I especially liked this bit:

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Re: The Dems blow the election again
« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2018, 01:51:08 AM »
Stacey Abrams sounds as though she'd make a great governor.
Her positions on education, justice and healthcare seem reasonable, I wish her the best.

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« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2018, 03:06:55 AM »
And another says it is now dead even.

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Reuters poll shows Republicans leading generic ballot for first time
BY BRETT SAMUELS - 05/22/18 01:39 PM EDT

Republicans hold a slim lead over Democrats in a generic ballot among registered voters, a new Reuters poll found, marking the first time the survey showed the GOP ahead in this election cycle.

The poll showed 38.1 percent of registered voters said they would vote for a Republican candidate if midterm elections were held today, compared to just under 37 percent who said they’d vote for a Democrat.

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/388832-reuters-poll-shows-republicans-leading-generic-ballot-for-first-time

I wouldn't put too much weight on any single poll.  538's synthesis of multiple polls hasn't shown recent improvement for the Repubes.  As I type this, it's 40.4 for Rs and 45.1 for Ds.

As the election approaches, the electorate will be watching, among other things, Manafort's trial.  There are likely to be more indictments filed.  The economy seems to be softening a bit.  Increasing hostilities with Iran, N.Korea, and possibly Syria may not work in Trump's favor.

Personally, I'm fairly optimistic about the House.  The Senate will be something of a stretch.  Much will depend on events between now and November.  Trump, however, never seems to fail to shove his foot in his mouth, so that's also working in our favor.

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Re: The Dems blow the election again
« Reply #105 on: May 25, 2018, 03:27:01 AM »
Yes, the Republicans might hold the house, in spite of Trump.  The Democrats probably need an eight point advantage to take back the House, and a minor miracle in the Senate.  The demographics are so bad for the Dems in the Senate, that I expect the Republicans to gain a seat or two.  I really do not think the trial or more indictments will have much of an effect.  The economy and international relations will be the deciders.  Right now, they are trending red.  But November is still a ways away.

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« Reply #106 on: May 25, 2018, 04:16:28 PM »


I wouldn't put too much weight on any single poll.  538's synthesis of multiple polls hasn't shown recent improvement for the Repubes.  As I type this, it's 40.4 for Rs and 45.1 for Ds.

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Of course not, but the polling trend has been strongly against the D's and that matters.

As to the accuracy of 538 I would point out that their methodology had Hillary winning by a huge margin the day before the election - so they are not exactly a source above all others.
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« Reply #107 on: May 25, 2018, 04:46:10 PM »
Off-topic, but very nice, thanks. I especially liked this bit:

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A student can say to me: I don't believe in any way that I can save the Earth. And I can say back to the student: I think you're right, you can't. But you can live a life you believe in. And you can make your life into a work of art that embodies your deepest values.

Re my sometimes off topicness, I'm trying to disengage with the specifics and the rage and point towards helpful information, and only share what I think might be useful, and I can't always find the right place to put it.

Just to be clear, I would be a socialist or a green myself, but I also want to make some headway. I agree with almost all Bernie's ideas, in fact I would go further on some (15/hour is not a living wage in Boston, New York, or San Francisco, while it's actually more than enough in some rural areas, and I don't like his pro-gun stuff). But I don't like his eagerness to blame and divide, which the more radical of his followers have taken even further.

I get a hundred requests for money a day, and I totally agree money is politics is horrible and is making things worse, along with keeping US TV alive.

I just think we have to work with what we have.

I also think hatred, blame, clubbing together and making lemon sessions OK, and bringing up every past iniquity (and the bodies are buried everywhere, I agree, US has been horrid over and over and over, so has Europe (Hitler? Theresa May? Erdogan? etc.)) is not helping.

We need to find a way to help and support each other, not amplify hatred and blame, my opinion.

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« Reply #108 on: May 25, 2018, 11:02:08 PM »
You want to read something which demonstrates in spades why the D's have big issues.  I would read it twice and think about the implications.  Here you go...

Keep in mind the 2020 reelection campaign was started on inauguration day, or some 2 1/2 years before anyone else ever has done such a thing.  This is maybe sleazy but it is really innovative and is already paying dividends.

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....The humble surroundings and small staff belie an ambitious, well-funded operation. While even Parscale describes Trump’s 2016 campaign as “ragtag,” he’s making sure the 2020 effort won’t be. Before any major Democratic candidate for president has raised a dime, the president’s 2020 campaign has already raised over $40 million. Trump Make America Great Again, a joint fundraising committee with the RNC that can transfer money to the Trump campaign, has raised another $34 million....

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...The campaign was running Facebook ads even before Inauguration Day, according to multiple people involved with the effort. And that has continued with over 5,900 Facebook ads purchased just in May, according Gary Coby, a consultant on the campaign and former director of digital advertising at the RNC. Trump’s 24.5 million Facebook followers dwarf every other active politician in the country (Barack Obama has 55 million) and recent changes to the algorithm weighing against political content will make it much more expensive for would-be competitors to build a following this large.

Outside of Facebook, the campaign already has 18 million email addresses and phone numbers with an investment strategy aiming for 40 million by Election Day 2020,...

Ka-ching!

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...And the money is rolling in this time.

The Republican ultrawealthy have jumped aboard the Trump train, ..... The RNC and the Trump 2020 campaign are already in daily communication with each other......and are both spending millions to build upon Trump’s strength with small-dollar donors and expand their supporter lists. The RNC also changed its rules and disbanded its primary debate committee in a move that will make it more difficult for any potential primary opponent.....

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...The RNC has raised over $180 million and is also pouring its money into building up its files of email addresses and cell numbers along with a ground game infrastructure that can easily be redeployed toward 2020 after the midterms — lamely dubbed the “permanent data-driven ground game.” The committee’s field team of 300 staffers and over 13,000 fellows who went through a six-week training (compared to 5,000 last cycle) had knocked on over 5 million doors as of this week. Since January of this year, the RNC has also added over 96,000 new small-dollar donors with an average donation of under $30....

They have already knocked on over 5 million doors...wow.

Well you can get the picture.  The game has changed and you better be on your toes and working like a (family blog)ing dog or you are going to get hammered.  They are trying to take the strengths from Trump's 2016 campaign and its innovations, the fundraising tactics of Bernie, and the big dollar traditional R donor base (who were well paid with the tax cuts) and meld them into a fundraising juggernaut.  Money talks and BS walks as they say. Beating this machine is not going to be easy.  They are 'serious' ...is the opposition serious?? Beats me and that becomes your answer as if it is not obvious they 'are' serious then they are not.

https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/8xex5b/trump-2020-inside-the-machine-thats-already-working-to-re-elect-trump
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« Reply #109 on: May 25, 2018, 11:30:00 PM »
On the other hand, I received this from Elizabeth Warren earlier today. Given what we have, I think it's a good effort:

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Almost 20 years ago – early in the fall term of 1999 – I’d been covering an especially tough topic in my bankruptcy class.

You know that deer-in-the-headlights look on a CEO’s face when they can’t answer a question in a Senate hearing? That was my whole room of students that day.

A few students had looked a little shaken when they left class, so I wasn’t surprised when one of them stopped by my office later in the day. “Hi, I’m Katie Porter. You were really hard on me today.” I thought she was about to start complaining about how tough the work was, but she didn’t pause a beat. Instead, she said, “and I just wanted to come by to say please keep it up. I want to learn this, so don’t let up on me.”

I didn’t let up –- and neither did Katie. Katie became an expert in the complex law of bankruptcy, and we worked together for years studying why millions of American families were in so much financial trouble. She became a law professor herself out in California –- and in the aftermath of the 2008 economic crisis, California Attorney General Kamala Harris appointed her to a job fighting to hold the big banks accountable and help Californians who lost their homes.

Several months ago, Katie invited me to breakfast. After we caught up on the news about her kids, she told me she wanted to pour everything she had into making a difference for people. Katie is running for Congress in 2018 -- and my friends at Democracy for America are behind her 100%.

I trust Katie to fight for working families. I’m fighting for Katie, along with DFA, and I hope you will, too. ...

Katie lives in Orange County, California –- in a district that Hillary Clinton won by five points last November. The Republican Congresswoman who holds that seat has voted with Donald Trump 98.7% of the time -– including votes to repeal health care for millions of Americans, defund Planned Parenthood, and gut the rules on Wall Street.

Sending Katie to Congress in this winnable district would put us one seat closer to taking back the House in 2018. And Katie will give us another powerful voice in Washington who will stand up to the big banks and powerful corporations and fight for women, students, seniors, immigrants, and working people in her district and all across this country.

I’ve seen Katie’s commitment and grit up close and personal. I’ve seen her determination to tell the story of a rigged game. And I’ve seen her put it all on the line to fight for what she believes in.

Katie has been my partner in these fights for years -- and she’ll make a terrific partner in Congress.

It was a donation ask, but things like this give me hope ... Mind you, I am ignoring all requests from the main party. DFA (Democracy for America) is one of the good guys.

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« Reply #110 on: May 26, 2018, 01:09:03 AM »
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Democrats also have deep pockets, though it's often unclear just what their $Millions are spent on.


Daniel Jones, a former Intelligence Staffer for Dianne Feinstein raised a quick $50M from "7 to 10 wealthy donors". The $50M was apparently to "retain the services of Fusion GPS and Christopher Steele" after the 2016 election.


Just why Fusion GPS or Steele would require an additional $50M following their unsuccessful attempt at gaining the Presidency for Hillary is a subject that I'd like to see explored.


They'd already been payed a much, much lower sum for their work leading up to the election.
Their "research" wasn't well received by the voters as Hillary lost anyway.
After the election the FBI et. al. were looking into the matters raised, with the taxpayers picking up the tab.


Why did DiFi believe that shaking down some of her deepest pocketed donors after the election was a necessity?
Why didn't the DNC or the DCCC, or even Hillary make this payment?
Why did DiFi use an intermediary to both raise the amount and deliver it?
The "Pee Pee Dossier" had already been ordered, produced, delivered and paid for. What additional services were Fusion GPS and Steele being paid such an astonishingly large amount for?
How was the $50M distributed after it fell into Fusion & Steele's hands?


Search "Feinstein staffer raised $50M"
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« Reply #111 on: May 26, 2018, 01:31:27 AM »
Actually, Republicans have not gained much, and polls (see actual voting results) are way off. Democrats like me won't respond to pollers.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/

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Re: The Dems blow the election again
« Reply #112 on: May 26, 2018, 01:45:57 AM »
"Just why Fusion GPS or Steele would require an additional $50M "

Smells like a shakedown to me.

"Wouldn't want me telling how much of that dossier I made up, wouldya ?"

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Re: The Dems blow the election again
« Reply #113 on: May 26, 2018, 02:00:33 AM »
"Just why Fusion GPS or Steele would require an additional $50M "

Smells like a shakedown to me.

"Wouldn't want me telling how much of that dossier I made up, wouldya ?"

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Not just off topic but outright weird. Nuff said.

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« Reply #114 on: May 26, 2018, 02:32:29 AM »
"Wouldn't want me telling how much of that dossier I made up, wouldya ?"
Are you overdosed on Republican or on Russian propaganda?

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« Reply #115 on: May 26, 2018, 04:04:32 AM »
Not just off topic but outright weird. Nuff said.
Not terribly off topic as DiFi's still a Democratic Senator as I recall.
As far as being outright weird, it certainly is.


The Republicans have an "October Surprise" that will slap the Dems hard in 2018 or 2020. $50M is too big a sum to not have left a trail, and someone here or in Britain will spill the beans. These aren't patriots who will fall on their sword, they're mercenaries arguing over who got which end of the stick.


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« Reply #116 on: May 26, 2018, 06:23:31 PM »

 
Why did DiFi believe that shaking down some of her deepest pocketed donors after the election was a necessity?

Yes, much of the right-wing media is whining about this.  Disappointing to see right-wing talking points parroted here.

I don't see anything remotely wrong with this fund-raising effort.
Donald Trump has an extensive, sleazy past.
Private investigators sometimes can access information that a criminal investigation can't.
Steele has a long history of professional, credible work.  His initial focus of his work was Trump's shady business dealings in the former soviet union.

Public information *suggests* a great deal of money laundering by Trump, among other misconduct.  There are many avenues to explore. 

One example is Eric Broidy taking the fall for a $1.6 million payoff to a former Playboy model, to include, I believe, an abortion.  There's some circumstantial evidence that the baby-to-be was Trump's, not Broidy's.  This deserves investigation, too.

In all, plenty of things to investigate.   Steele has been productive and a skilled investigator.

I know the right-wing media trashes Steele and the dossier.  However, much of it has been been corroborated.  Nothing of substance has been disproven.

Looks like an investment well-spent to me.

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« Reply #117 on: May 26, 2018, 10:23:16 PM »
Nunes getting lotsa money from small donors:

"Nearly $1.5 million of Nunes’ latest fundraising haul came from small, unitemized contributions, "

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/25/devin-nunes-russia-probe-fundraising-609492

Crowdfunding. It's the new black. Even republicans are getting there.

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« Reply #118 on: May 26, 2018, 10:28:19 PM »
Repubs want to go after Sherrod. I don't think they will win that one.

"Republicans can make a play for Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown’s seat in Ohio."

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/389458-mcconnell-sees-ohio-in-play-as-confidence-about-midterms-grows

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« Reply #119 on: May 29, 2018, 02:40:24 PM »
That seeming narrowing (reversal?) of the generic congressional ballot seems to have been a statistical outlier.  The blue wave of November is looking healthier again:

Outlier poll that showed GOP lead in the race for Congress abruptly shifts back to the Democrats
https://www.salon.com/2018/05/27/outlier-poll-that-showed-gop-lead-in-the-race-for-congress-abruptly-shifts-back-to-the-democrats/

538 com is reflecting this in their weighted average of polls, now D 45.6, R 39.7

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« Reply #120 on: May 30, 2018, 08:09:46 PM »
To all you members who live in California, or know people living in California, please, do everything you can to get Alison Hartson into the US Senate. This is one of those moments where a strong signal can be given:

The enemy is within
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« Reply #121 on: May 30, 2018, 08:52:28 PM »
That seeming narrowing (reversal?) of the generic congressional ballot seems to have been a statistical outlier.  The blue wave of November is looking healthier again:

Outlier poll that showed GOP lead in the race for Congress abruptly shifts back to the Democrats
https://www.salon.com/2018/05/27/outlier-poll-that-showed-gop-lead-in-the-race-for-congress-abruptly-shifts-back-to-the-democrats/

538 com is reflecting this in their weighted average of polls, now D 45.6, R 39.7

While those values would translate to a D gain in the House, it is probably short of a takeover.  The Dems need to gain 25 seats.  The last time they flipped the House was in 2008.  In that election, they had a 9% polling advantage and gained 24 seats.  At a 6%, they may fall short.

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« Reply #122 on: May 30, 2018, 09:51:04 PM »
To all you members who live in California, or know people living in California, please, do everything you can to get Alison Hartson into the US Senate. This is one of those moments where a strong signal can be given:

I agree entirely.  California can (and should) have a strongly progressive Congressional delegation.  Ms. Hartson has personally sacrificed much in order to serve.  She's inspiring.  We need inspiring leaders.

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« Reply #123 on: May 31, 2018, 02:35:38 PM »
Several reason polls have narrowed the Dem lead to about 3.5%.  It seems like that one poll is no longer an outlier.

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« Reply #124 on: May 31, 2018, 06:09:39 PM »
Several reason polls have narrowed the Dem lead to about 3.5%.  It seems like that one poll is no longer an outlier.

538 shows D+5.2 today for a weighted average of polls.
I think one dynamic of importance is the situation of current Republicans in power.
The ones facing re-election in November mostly still have primaries to get through.
For essentially all these Republicans, who are often facing primary challengers, they must, as a matter of political necessity, support Trump.  Otherwise, they risk losing the primary.

Immediately after winning their own primary, they *must* demonstrate independence from Trump, in order to win the general election.

In the next month or so, I expect Trump's base of elected R officials to essentially turn on him.

We're seeing the start of this already.  On Trump's claim that he's been a victim of having a "spy" placed in his campaign, he's now been swatted down by McConnell, Gowdy, and an important voice on Fox News.

As Trump's hallelujah chorus of support from elected R's evaporates, I think D's prospects may brighten.

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« Reply #125 on: June 01, 2018, 01:48:49 PM »
Several reason polls have narrowed the Dem lead to about 3.5%.  It seems like that one poll is no longer an outlier.

538 shows D+5.2 today for a weighted average of polls.
I think one dynamic of importance is the situation of current Republicans in power.
The ones facing re-election in November mostly still have primaries to get through.
For essentially all these Republicans, who are often facing primary challengers, they must, as a matter of political necessity, support Trump.  Otherwise, they risk losing the primary.

Immediately after winning their own primary, they *must* demonstrate independence from Trump, in order to win the general election.

In the next month or so, I expect Trump's base of elected R officials to essentially turn on him.

We're seeing the start of this already.  On Trump's claim that he's been a victim of having a "spy" placed in his campaign, he's now been swatted down by McConnell, Gowdy, and an important voice on Fox News.

As Trump's hallelujah chorus of support from elected R's evaporates, I think D's prospects may brighten.

I do not agree that they must support Trump, nor that they must demonstrate independence from him.  The best comparison may be to 2006, when Bush was becoming unpopular.  Bush's approval rating was under 40%, and was falling.  Currently, Trump's is 44% and rising.  In 2006, the Democrats polling advantage was 11%, compare to half that today.  Trump is not as poisonous as many believe.

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« Reply #126 on: June 01, 2018, 09:01:28 PM »
Here are some more good candidates. I've seen a few dozen in the last few days (more, probably). Exhausting but worthwhile, being positive instead of negative as much as is possible. We have, hopefully, only 220 more days until January 7, when some restraint can be put on Trumpistan and its wholesale war on humanity for the purpose of plunder and power.

From Bill McKibben:
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I’m endorsing Kevin de Leon for US Senate. He’s been a strong champion of clean energy, and an effective one — using his power in Sacramento to make change happen against the well heeled opposition of the fossil fuel industry.

350.org also supports de Leon. Here's their video. I hope in particular those of you who lump all US people together will take a look and see what we've been doing:


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Meet Jess Phoenix, the Volcanologist Running for Congress in California

Jess Phoenix has spent the past decade working as a geologist, traveling to every continent but Antarctica and climbing the slopes of erupting volcanoes. It’s a far cry from the staid halls of the United States Capitol, where she hopes to replace a Republican congressman who once  said that California had “embarked on a rash mission to curtail global warming.”

Ms. Phoenix, 36, has specialized in the study of volcanoes since a stint in 2008 at the Hawaiian Volcano Observatory, where she found her field work on Mauna Loa and Kilauea so exhilarating that she changed her initial plans to conduct research on subduction zones and plate tectonics.

Now, she is one of several Democrats looking to challenge Representative Steve Knight in California’s 25th District in November — and one of hundreds of scientists seeking public office this year, many of them motivated by opposition to the Trump administration’s environmental policies.

She has received advice and resources  from 314 Action - http://www.314action.org/ - a nonprofit group working to elect people with expertise in science and math fields. The group, named after the first three digits of the mathematical constant pi, said it had trained 1,500 prospective candidates in the past year and a half, including around 450 who are currently running for state or federal office. Joshua Morrow, the executive director, argued that scientists would bring to the government “a common-sense approach to problem solving,” as well as an instinct for collaboration and a tendency to follow where the facts lead.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/jess-phoenix-congress-climate-change.html

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« Reply #127 on: June 02, 2018, 07:11:21 PM »


Out of Poverty and Onto the Ballot: the New Wave of Working-Class Candidates Trying to Take Congress

In almost every case, these candidates have been met by the national Democratic Party with either indifference, or outright opposition

https://theintercept.com/2018/06/02/working-class-candidates-congress-congressional-primaries/

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By the end of the day, he and his wife had cut four checks to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, for a total of $267,200.

That was never an option on the whiteboard for Roger Manno, Trone’s opponent in the Democratic primary in Maryland’s 6th District.

Manno is now a Maryland state senator and the party’s majority whip, but it’s been a long road that has taken him through extended bouts of homelessness, unemployment, and other economic depredations rarely found in the biographies of members of Congress, who are much more likely to note that they are the sons or daughters — or even grandchildren — of millworkers or the like.



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« Reply #128 on: June 03, 2018, 09:59:01 PM »
Knife fight in Orange county, CA

"it became clear the wide field of Democrats could split their vote enough to land a pair of Republicans atop the all-party primary. "

“I’m hesitant to support Dr. Tran because she doesn’t seem to have as much money for ads.”

That last sentence is so sad.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/03/california-house-democrats-orange-county-617958

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« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2018, 07:16:28 PM »
Well, that's sad about de Leon. But in the face of FeinsteinHatredTM, I'd like to emphasize her positives:

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The logic of de León’s campaign had always been that Feinstein was no longer a good match for the state—moderate and careful and old while California was young and outspoken and progressive. This argument understood the state, but it underestimated Feinstein. Her reputation during the Obama years had come to rest heavily on her support of his Administration’s drone-assassination and domestic-surveillance programs, and in this political campaign she had bent, a bit, to the new atmosphere within her party. She reversed her long-standing support of the death penalty, and in the Senate voted against the nomination of Gina Haspel, who had been heavily involved in the CIA’s torture program, to be the agency’s director. The first year and a half of the Trump Administration has also given Feinstein the opportunity to remind the public of her strengths, and the clarity with which she sizes up those around her in the political arena. “The dogma lives loudly within you, and that’s of concern,” she told Amy Barrett, a Trump judicial nominee and an outspoken Catholic, last year. As liberals called for a renewal of the federal assault-weapons ban after the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, in Florida, they remembered that Feinstein had sponsored the original one, in 1994. As they grew worried about the Trump Administration’s detention policies, they also recalled that it was Feinstein who had fought, for years, to document the CIA torture program during the George W. Bush years. In November, in a hearing over Facebook’s role in the informational chaos of the 2016 election, the senior senator from California glowered at an all-male panel of the company’s executives. “We are not gonna go away, gentlemen,” she said, and, given the tone of the times, both the sentiment and the word “gentlemen” were expertly chosen.

.... If Feinstein’s bipartisan inclination has been seen as a liability during this first phase of the Trump Administration, then it may be a great asset during the next phase ... Congress is then likely to be closely divided between the parties, and someone will need to forge a consensus. Feinstein is likely either still to be the ranking Democrat on the Senate Judiciary Committee—or (a more outside possibility) its chair—when the Trump era will pivot around the matter of why, and under what influence, the President summarily removed James Comey as the director of the FBI. Her reëlection campaign ... Feinstein has been revealed not as a figure out of time but, more simply, a talent.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/dianne-feinstein-and-the-revived-future-of-the-democratic-partys-past

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Re: The Dems blow the election again
« Reply #130 on: June 08, 2018, 08:39:31 PM »
Knife fight in Orange county, CA

"it became clear the wide field of Democrats could split their vote enough to land a pair of Republicans atop the all-party primary. "

“I’m hesitant to support Dr. Tran because she doesn’t seem to have as much money for ads.”

That last sentence is so sad.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/03/california-house-democrats-orange-county-617958

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Of course that article was dated June 3rd, and subsequently the Democrats did well in the California primaries.
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« Reply #131 on: June 11, 2018, 09:56:50 PM »
Way to lose the antiwar voters: Democratic foreign policy coming from warhawk Bolton these days.

"Senate minority leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) issued a harsh letter to Trump ..."

"These are largely the same as the demands made by US National Security Advisor John Bolton and other hard-liners in the Trump administration"

https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-kim-head-singapore-democrats-chafe/

https://original.antiwar.com/Stu_Smallwood/2018/06/10/democrats-use-bipartisan-anti-diplomacy-playbook-but-moon-has-changed-the-game/



I like Sherrod Brown, but he is wrong on this one. Schumer, of course, remains a rat, no surprise.

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« Reply #132 on: June 12, 2018, 11:06:17 AM »
Your second link is particularly good, explaining some of the history.
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« Reply #133 on: June 12, 2018, 02:00:22 PM »
Yes.  Thanks for the links.  The Dems had better get on board with this soon, lest they lose the entire issue to the GOP this fall.

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« Reply #134 on: June 12, 2018, 04:40:58 PM »
It is nauseating on a daily basis to be an American these days. On the whole, I'd agree we need a complete do-over, with wholesale community collaboration to address the very real problems of societal breakdown that we face because almost everyone is blind to the dangers. I'd agree that it's not just Republicans, that we all have failed to do the hard work of building a community that works for everyone. That said, as I said at least once before:

Here we all are, and what are we going to do about it? The power system is what it is, and yelling from outside won't work either. One can either keep one's hands clean by washing them of the whole business, thereby remaining ineffective, or one can try to work from within, which requires the kind of stamina and hard work that many of our top Democrats have put in. There is no such thing as staying clean, as our new elected representatives are learning, because there are other people out there. I agree that it is arguable that it is not possible to clean it up, but that's not an excuse to wash one's hands and walk away. Getting money out of elections would be amazing, but blaming victims doesn't begin to fix it. It's only life itself that is at stake.

I do not accept that flat statement that "of course Schumer is a rat". He's a good man who has worked tirelessly from within the system (which is a mess, agreed).

Here, as witness for the defense (somewhat isolated in this community, I know, but none the less honest for that), I present a more balanced view of Schumer. Please note that the author is Elizabeth Kolbert, who won the Pulitzer Prize for The Sixth Extinction. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/27/can-chuck-schumer-check-donald-trump. My choice of extracts is arbitrary. Nobody gets to be emperor of the world, and the kind of corruption my colleagues here are so eager to attack is part of the dirty business of actually trying to get things done.

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The power of the Senate minority is purely negative: it can’t pass legislation; it can only block it. But even exercising negative power requires a great deal of discipline—potentially more than the Democrats can muster.

Next year, ten Democratic senators will be up for reëlection in states that Trump carried. The President has been wooing these senators, and even considered naming two of them, Joe Manchin, of West Virginia, and Heidi Heitkamp, of North Dakota, to his Cabinet. Meanwhile, Democratic activists—generally in blue states—are calling for round-the-clock resistance. Protesters have gathered in front of Schumer’s apartment, in Brooklyn’s Park Slope, for rallies organized under the tagline “What the F*ck, Chuck?” (At least one demonstrator brought a model of a skeleton, to illustrate the importance of a spine.)

Can Schumer negotiate these currents? Can anyone? It seems no exaggeration to say that on these questions the future world depends. As Schumer himself put it the other morning, to the almost vacant Senate chamber, “This is not a drill.”

Schumer, who’s sixty-six, is an optimist, a trait that he says he inherited from his father, Abe. Abe, for his part, inherited an exterminating business from his father, Jack, a Jewish immigrant from Ukraine. The family lived in Flatbush, Brooklyn, and Schumer, growing up, would sometimes lend a hand killing roaches.
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“He isn’t just one thing,” Barbara Roper, the director of investor protection at the Consumer Federation of America, said. “In between crises, he may be a friend to Wall Street and advance an agenda that we, frankly, think of as harmful. But, if you’re talking about what he did during the financial crisis, he was an advocate for strong reform. And then there are a whole host of issues that have to do with more bread-and-butter consumer issues where he’s been a strong and reliable supporter.”

Barney Frank, the former Massachusetts congressman and one of the chief authors of the financial-reform bill that became known as Dodd-Frank, sat next to Schumer in House committees for eighteen years.

Politicians “are often either good inside players or good outside players,” Frank told me. “Chuck is unusually good at both. He understands that in a legislative body, sharing power with so many people, you need to compromise. Another thing that you need to do, which he does, but which other people do not do, is eschew an attitude of moral superiority.” ...

Over the years, Schumer’s talents as a “legislative strategist” have put him at the center of some of Congress’s most contentious negotiations. He was a primary author of the Brady Bill, which required federal background checks for gun buyers ... More recently, in 2013, Schumer was part of the so-called Gang of Eight, a group of four Democratic and four Republican senators who crafted a sweeping package of immigration reforms. The reforms would have created a path to citizenship for millions of people now living in the U.S. illegally and, at the same time, would have made it more difficult for employers to hire undocumented workers. The bill passed the Senate but died in the House.
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At another point, he said, “Deep, deep down, I believe in the American people—their solidness, their decency, even at times when they’re angry and frustrated, their pulling back and trying to do the right thing. And I’ve believed in it my whole life and this is the most challenging time for it, but I still believe in it. And, if I’m wrong, God help America.”

As I read through this, I thought, how much worse this is, day by day, in every way, than it was back then (March 2017). Trump and his brother from another mother, Kim Jong Un (who is meeting with Syria's Bashir al Assad soon) are part of a new world order that will fulfill our worst nightmare, if it comes to pass. Given the revelations about the early Saudi visit (they sussed out and bought Trump early) it looks like there will be an unholy alliance of the US, Saudi Arabia, Egypt (AL Sisi), Turkey (Erdogan), Russia (Putin), The Philippines (Duterte), China (subtly offside, but smarter than Trump) and any other of Trump's favorite dictators I've forgotten, to replace our former alignment with our North American neighbors, Europe, Japan, and the world's democracies (no matter how lame). Trumpians love it. 1984 is almost here. With Bolton and Pompeo and his new empowerment, there is no longer any restraint to his violence. It is 208 days until Democrats (if elected) take their seats in January, and daily mayhem x 208 is a nightmare!

The only hope is that the sewer smells so bad it overcomes the apathy (and all too often, ignorance) of voters. Meanwhile, voter suppression was just approved by our new Supreme Court, and many people will find it hard to register and vote. I had a whiff of it renewing my driver's license a few weeks ago, and I had my documents in hand.

Most working stiffs at the low end simply don't have the resources or time off from their jobs to jump through the new hoops for the less fortunate, the elderly, those who've had to move (poor people are evicted at an astonishing rate, which is profitable for slumlords who confiscate and sue with a complicit court system), those who are too busy living hand to mouth. And the silence on climate has gotten worse, except among us "librul elites". They're too busy paying for transport to realize the way it has always been is not OK.

The reason I know is because I've been to court with a couple of victims; they work for me as Home Health Aides, caring for my mother. And the conditions of their lives, if you haven't been down in the dirt with the system that puts and keeps them down, you don't know how bad it can get. We have been lucky to be able to help them. It is not OK for the presence of a literate white person to change the outcome!
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« Reply #135 on: June 13, 2018, 06:49:29 PM »
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I cannot buy into the 'global conspiracy' ideation which frames making peace with Nth Koreans as some kind of evil act playing into the hands of a global tyrannical cabal of the nations listed. That is far too over the top for me. It is not empathetic, it is not loving and it is not life affirming either.

To a certain extent, this is correct. However, as a nightmare, it bears noting whom Trump is disrespecting [Canada, western Europe, Japan] and whom he admires. The background on the Saudis starts a train of thought that one would rather ignore, but it is based on facts. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/09/a-saudi-princes-quest-to-remake-the-middle-east

As for empathetic, loving, life affirming, when things are monstrous it is important not to go all kumbaya.




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« Reply #137 on: June 20, 2018, 11:45:31 PM »
Early days, but Blue wave seems to be shrinking:

"Goldman Sachs analysis of the current prediction market concluded that November will be a closer election than earlier forecast"

Of course, the vampire squid might be putting it's tentacle on the scales.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/18/goldman-sachs-chances-of-a-democrat-blue-wave-in-november-are-diminishing.html

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« Reply #138 on: June 22, 2018, 08:23:28 PM »
@Sidd: this is a better resource. IMHO paying more than momentary attention to polling is a waste of energy (though you could easily accuse me of being equally affected by this waste). Based on my observation, Dems have been outperforming the polls by a considerable amount in actual elections, and despite cheating that gives Republicans a significant advantage in red states, look to be doing very well.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-republicans-may-have-a-narrow-senate-advantage/ An Updated Look At The Race For The Senate

Unless, perchance, you are rooting for a Republican victory and things getting worse, in which case, that helps get rid of corruption, income inequality, and money in politics how?

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« Reply #139 on: June 22, 2018, 08:24:16 PM »
Melania's jacket has given us a potentially much better slogan:

"They don't care, do you?"

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« Reply #140 on: June 22, 2018, 11:08:58 PM »

Unless, perchance, you are rooting for a Republican victory and things getting worse, in which case, that helps get rid of corruption, income inequality, and money in politics how?
What has sidd ever posted that would lead you toward such a bizarre unfounded speculation?
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« Reply #141 on: June 23, 2018, 12:37:14 AM »
Too busy attacking Democrats to notice Trump and his dupes, enablers, the Kochtopus, Breitbart, Mercers, Adelson, et al? Or that Democrats, in the minority, don't have a vote? Please check their voting records before you say they're all the same.

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« Reply #142 on: June 25, 2018, 12:16:04 AM »
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/immigration-reform/

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Immigration reform [Note: This page is a reproduction of the Hillary for America policy proposal on immigration reform]

Hillary has been committed to the immigrant rights community throughout her career. As president, she will work to fix our broken immigration system and stay true to our fundamental American values: that we are a nation of immigrants, and we treat those who come to our country with dignity and respect—and that we embrace immigrants, not denigrate them.

- Introduce comprehensive immigration reform. Hillary will introduce comprehensive immigration reform with a pathway to full and equal citizenship within her first 100 days in office. It will treat every person with dignity, fix the family visa backlog, uphold the rule of law, protect our borders and national security, and bring millions of hardworking people into the formal economy.
- End the three- and 10-year bars. The three- and 10-year bars force families—especially those whose members have different citizenship or immigration statuses—into a heartbreaking dilemma: remain in the shadows, or pursue a green card by leaving the country and loved ones behind.
- Defend President Obama’s executive actions—known as DACA and DAPA—against partisan attacks. The Supreme Court’s deadlocked decision on DAPA was a heartbreaking reminder of how high the stakes are in this election. Hillary believes DAPA is squarely within the president’s authority and won’t stop fighting until we see it through. The estimated 5 million people eligible for DAPA—including DREAMers and parents of Americans and lawful residents—should be protected under the executive actions.
- Do everything possible under the law to protect families. If Congress keeps failing to act on comprehensive immigration reform, Hillary will enact a simple system for those with sympathetic cases—such as parents of DREAMers, those with a history of service and contribution to their communities, or those who experience extreme labor violations—to make their case and be eligible for deferred action.
- Enforce immigration laws humanely. Immigration enforcement must be humane, targeted, and effective. Hillary will focus resources on detaining and deporting those individuals who pose a violent threat to public safety, and ensure refugees who seek asylum in the U.S. have a fair chance to tell their stories.
- End family detention and close private immigration detention centers. Hillary will end family detention for parents and children who arrive at our border in desperate situations and close private immigrant detention centers.
- Expand access to affordable health care to all families. We should let families—regardless of immigration status—buy into the Affordable Care Act exchanges. Families who want to purchase health insurance should be able to do so.
- Promote naturalization. Hillary will work to expand fee waivers to alleviate naturalization costs, increase access to language programs to encourage English proficiency, and increase outreach and education to help more people navigate the process.
- Support immigrant integration. Hillary will create a national Office of Immigrant Affairs, support affordable integration services through $15 million in new grant funding for community navigators and similar organizations, and significantly increase federal resources for adult English language education and citizenship education.

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/390305-clinton-blasts-trump-immigration-policy-separating-kids-from-parents-we-have-to

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/19/hillary_clinton_i_warned_of_trump_separating_families_people_being_rounded_up_on_trains_and_buses.html

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/jun/18/yournewswirecom/false-headline-wrongly-links-hillary-clinton-forme/

But if you don't want to know, Jimmy Dore Trumps All!!

Hillary was too busy answering the neverending claims about her emails to be allowed by US TV (mostly men, and often on NBC, which also did Trump's The Apprentice, Dr. Oz, Matt Lauer (since disgraced), Jimmy Fallon (lightweight who rumpled Trump's hair), et al., who didn't want to kill their monster paychecks) to mention policy. But these were her policy positions.

Her actions throughout her life on behalf of working people and women are a matter of public record, though you wouldn't know it based on the attacks here and elsewhere.

Under Trump, even naturalized citizens are being deported as they go on a rampage over the records, finding anything they can to get rid of "those people": especially if they have a vote, which is anathema to them.
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« Reply #143 on: June 26, 2018, 10:42:40 PM »
Here's one Democrat willing to take on AIPAC.

http://mondoweiss.net/2018/06/outspokenness-massacre-democratic/

AIPAC gonna come after him.

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