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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2250 on: July 05, 2018, 10:02:22 PM »
Those who died didn't have air conditioning in their homes and had health issues.

“Montreal ambulance services have reached their limits due to health concerns from extreme heat. This heat wave makes it clear that city governments need serious policies for adapting to rising temps. If this can happen in Canada, it can happen everywhere.”
https://twitter.com/algore/status/1014915505944227846

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Deaths rise as record heat continues to scorch southern Quebec
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The wave started last Friday and is the worst to hit Quebec in decades.

Mayor asks for public's help

Montreal Mayor Valérie Plante said at a news conference that, "we're doing everything we can." She pointed to the city's response, which includes opening swimming pools and air-conditioned areas to the public, distributing water to those in need and having first responders checking in on vulnerable citizens.

Plante said 15,000 people were visited by firefighters and police yesterday to make sure they could cope with the heat. ...
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4732709
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« Reply #2251 on: July 05, 2018, 11:05:24 PM »
Red-hot planet: All-time heat records have been set...

One provisional record mentioned in the wp has been since discounted. The UKMO have disregarded the high temperature/new Scottish all time record taken at Motherwell because of non-standard exposure.

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« Reply #2252 on: July 06, 2018, 02:03:43 AM »
Australia:

Weatherzone (@weatherzone)
7/4/18, 11:52 PM
“#Sydney is having its hottest day on record for the first week of July. The previous record was 24.1C in 2004 and the temperature at Obs Hill had reached 24.3C [75.7° F] by 1:40pm today.”
https://twitter.com/weatherzone/status/1014718744755499008
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« Reply #2253 on: July 07, 2018, 12:31:33 AM »
Africa’s Hottest Reliably Measured Temperature on Record: 124.3°F on Thursday in Algeria
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A historic heat wave in northern Africa on Thursday, July 5, brought Africa its hottest reliably measured temperature on record: 124.3°F (51.3°C), at Ouargla, Algeria. Ouargla (population 190,000) is the capital city of Ouargla Province in the Algerian Sahara Desert, at an elevation of 719 feet (219 meters). ...
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Africas-Hottest-Reliably-Measured-Temperature-Record-1243F-Thursday-Algeria
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« Reply #2254 on: July 07, 2018, 02:11:54 AM »
terarchy--rule by monsters...pretty much what we have now, certainly in the US, and arguably globally
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« Reply #2255 on: July 07, 2018, 02:46:23 AM »
Europe’s sunny weather makes for a sorry summer in Reykjavik
REYKJAVIK, Iceland (AP) — Pop singer Helgi Bjornsson, who is well-known in his native Iceland for a 1980s hit titled “I Do Like the Rain,” recently appeared on national television while a deadpan reporter challenged him to defend the song’s premise.

The people of Reykjavik do not like the rain anymore. This summer has been so gray and wet in the capital of Iceland that meteorologists have to look as far back as 1914 to find records for a worse May and June.
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During June, the month of midnight sun and camping holidays in Iceland, sunshine touched Reykjavik for a total of 70 hours. The temperature reached 13.2 degrees Celsius (56 F) on the warmest day, two degrees shy of Reykjavik’s average for the month.

In May, it rained every single day.


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https://apnews.com/a947ab13c1bc4c1c86c29e72c0f14c5d

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P.S.: Stupid AP. It is Björnsson with Ö. And I guess the song is this: "Mér finnst rigningin góð" which google translates as "I think the rain is good".



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« Reply #2256 on: July 08, 2018, 12:49:19 AM »
Southern California; Los Angeles.

“Map of all the stations around LA currently reporting a temp of 115° (46.1°C) or higher
There's, um, quite a few of them #LAHeatwave”
https://twitter.com/gdimeweather/status/1015368735044009986
Image below.

“For those that aren’t familiar, while most of us have our hottest average temperatures in July, SoCal usually has theirs in early September (I’m sure there’s a @Climatologist49 map for this). This sort of heat in July there is incredible. Natl wx this week has been something else”
https://twitter.com/mattlanza/status/1015432464221790211


“Infrared isn't working on police airships because the surroundings are giving off warmer heat signatures than people. At nighttime. In Los Angeles.”
https://twitter.com/bergopolis/status/1015451020153913344

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« Reply #2257 on: July 08, 2018, 04:40:46 PM »
Southern California

“Burbank, CA has broken the city's all time hottest observed temperature on record. Temperatures are currently at 113F, which breaks the old record high of 111.9F set back in July 2006.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1015347462964416512
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« Reply #2258 on: July 08, 2018, 06:52:22 PM »
Wow! Meanwhile, Super Typhoon Maria now at 160 mph, headed for China; looks like it's headed north of Taiwan but will be broken down a bit before landfall:
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/western-pacific/2018/super-typhoon-maria


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« Reply #2260 on: July 13, 2018, 08:04:20 PM »
https://www.hln.be/wetenschap-planeet/milieu/ijsberg-van-100-meter-hoog-bedreigt-kust-van-groenland-inwoners-uit-voorzorg-geevacueerd~acad4f17/

Worth posting the image (and the commentary)

Een 100 meter hoge ijsberg op drift bedreigt de kusten van Groenland. De lokale autoriteiten hebben uit voorzorg alvast mensen geëvacueerd.
De Groenlandse politie maande de kustbewoners van het eiland Innaarsuit aan weg te trekken van de kust. Ze vreest dat hun woningen onderlopen als het reusachtige ijsblok breekt. “We vrezen dat de ijsberg kalft, wat een overstroming zou veroorzaken”, aldus veiligheidschef Lina Davidsen.

Het dorp, dat in het noordwesten van Groenland ligt, telt 169 inwoners. Enkel zij die in de nabijheid van de ijsberg wonen, werden geëvacueerd. “De ijsberg drijft nog altijd dicht bij het dorp, de politie is aan het bespreken hoe het nu verder moet”, zei Kunuk Frediksen, een hoge officier van de Groenlandse politie.
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« Reply #2261 on: July 13, 2018, 08:53:24 PM »
Google doesn't know one or two of the words, but:
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A 100 meter high iceberg adrift threatens the coasts of Greenland. The local authorities have already evacuated people from precaution.
The Greenlandic police have been Innaarsuit [giving orders to???] the coastal inhabitants of the island to pull away from the coast. She fears that their homes are underrunning [under threat???] as the giant ice block breaks. "We fear that the iceberg is calving, which would cause a flood," said chief executive Lina Daviden.

The village, which lies in the northwest of Greenland, has 169 inhabitants. Only those who live in the vicinity of the iceberg were evacuated. "The iceberg still floats close to the village, the police are discussing how to proceed now," said Kunuk Frediksen, a senior officer of the Greenland Police.
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« Reply #2262 on: July 13, 2018, 09:14:57 PM »
Google doesn't know one or two of the words, but:
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"The iceberg still floats close to the village, the police are discussing how to proceed now," said Kunuk Frediksen, a senior officer of the Greenland Police.

Get out there and push ( I wonder if its grounded)
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« Reply #2263 on: July 13, 2018, 09:35:01 PM »
or wait for high tide, then push.  The berg on the near side is clearly higher in the water than it used to be and may well be perched on some rocks.  (Weight shifting [caused by, e.g., lost edge] can cause this look as well, without being grounded.)
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« Reply #2264 on: July 13, 2018, 11:57:16 PM »
Must be quite deep close to the shoreline, as only 10% of the berg is above surface and it's said in the article it's 100 m high, we have 900 m below surface. Hard to see how that thing could sail ashore...

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« Reply #2265 on: July 14, 2018, 08:12:25 PM »
“The first six months of the year have made it the hottest La Niña year to date on record,” said Clare Nullis of the WMO.

Heatwave sees record high temperatures around world this week
From Europe to Africa, extreme and widespread heat raises climate concerns in hottest La Niña year to date on record
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/heatwave-sees-record-high-temperatures-set-around-world-this-week
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« Reply #2266 on: July 15, 2018, 05:42:27 AM »
“The first six months of the year have made it the hottest La Niña year to date on record,” said Clare Nullis of the WMO.

Heatwave sees record high temperatures around world this week
From Europe to Africa, extreme and widespread heat raises climate concerns in hottest La Niña year to date on record
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/heatwave-sees-record-high-temperatures-set-around-world-this-week

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« Reply #2267 on: July 15, 2018, 11:15:06 AM »
hundreds died in flooding in Japan .. worth recording it happened ?  b.c.
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« Reply #2268 on: July 15, 2018, 11:19:25 AM »
Wierd or anecdotal?
The heat and drought in Sweden since May is not enough, we are still flying abroad more.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/trots-varmen-fler-reser-utomlands
7-8% more travels this summer. The sun is obviously a lot better around the Mediterranean Sea or in the US.  ::)
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« Reply #2269 on: July 15, 2018, 01:00:00 PM »
hundreds died in flooding in Japan .. worth recording it happened ?  b.c.

It was covered extensively in the Floods thread:  https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1951.msg162449.html#msg162449 
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« Reply #2270 on: July 16, 2018, 06:19:48 PM »
Wierd or anecdotal?
The heat and drought in Sweden since May is not enough, we are still flying abroad more.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/trots-varmen-fler-reser-utomlands
7-8% more travels this summer. The sun is obviously a lot better around the Mediterranean Sea or in the US.  ::)

They probably have a wish for skin cancer or something from higher UV radiation....

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« Reply #2271 on: July 16, 2018, 08:24:07 PM »
Bill McKibben (@billmckibben)
7/16/18, 2:00 PM
“Huh. We've swamped the atmosphere with so much methane that it is producing new cloud patterns. That seems a tad ominous ...”
https://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/1018918335554228227

Methane Is Giving Noctilucent Clouds a Boost
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Methane-Giving-Noctilucent-Clouds-Boost
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« Reply #2272 on: July 17, 2018, 06:47:42 AM »
Wierd or anecdotal?
The heat and drought in Sweden since May is not enough, we are still flying abroad more.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/trots-varmen-fler-reser-utomlands
7-8% more travels this summer. The sun is obviously a lot better around the Mediterranean Sea or in the US.  ::)

They probably have a wish for skin cancer or something from higher UV radiation....

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« Reply #2273 on: July 17, 2018, 08:32:43 PM »
Hot spots.
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« Reply #2274 on: July 17, 2018, 10:46:25 PM »
Heck, if there weren't a gazillion of mosquitos I would prefer Finland over the Mediterranean or the Carribean (or any other such sun starved place) for summer vacation!
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« Reply #2276 on: July 18, 2018, 08:14:08 AM »
Hot spots.
Here's the real thing by SMHI.
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« Reply #2277 on: July 19, 2018, 07:55:06 AM »
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« Reply #2278 on: July 19, 2018, 03:33:40 PM »
I live in Chicago...mid 90's through the weekend with high humidity...no air conditioning...will do fine.

In times gone by, we had no air conditioning to cope with 90-degree temperatures, and we coped.

The U.S. population as a whole today skews older, poorer, fatter, and sicker (e.g., diabetes, and the cardio-vascular and renal complications thereof).  Much less able to withstand heat, both physically and economically.

And well stupider! Suffering 90 Fahrenheit they well deserve. What a joke. It's not even 100! No empathy here. Bring on the fucken climate change. They want to suffer. They need to suffer. What else to tell the leading science denying nation?


Wow so much either a lack of appreciation of the conditions in the past or lack of empathy.
Ha!

According to the National Weather Service, this are the years with the most 90+ degree days in Chicago:

1988:  47
1955:  46
2012:  46
1959:  39
1952:  38
1954:  36
1964:  35
1971:  35
1944:  34
1977:  33
1987:  33
1934:  32

Only one year since the turn of the century made this list.  There were more 90+ degree days in the 1950s than the 2000s.  Even 100+ degrees were more frequent.  In the 30-year period from 1930-1959, twenty seven 100+ degrees were recorded.  In the past 30 years, there have been only 11, and none since 2012.  Considering the city tops 100 on average every 4.5 years, they are overdue.  The highest recorded temperature was 105 in 1934.

Picking summer temps in IL is a bit of cherry-picking as this is the state with the least amount of summer temperature change in this century so far (about half of the summers between 2000 and present have been below normal and half above normal).

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« Reply #2279 on: July 19, 2018, 08:25:28 PM »
This may or may not not be “weird,” and it’s certainly not “anecdotal” — but it has one freaky-looking GIF.  Differences in tornado locations from year to year do not seem random.

Annual tornado occurrences (start locations by EF rating) using @thomasp85 gganimate, @hadleywickham ggplot, and @edzerpebesma sf.”
https://twitter.com/JBElsner/status/1020002736996265984
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« Reply #2280 on: July 19, 2018, 08:30:04 PM »
As one tweet remarked:
Fascinating animation. It seems almost like there's a two-year alternation between more clustered and more dispersed tornado occurrences. Is that a real thing?

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« Reply #2281 on: July 20, 2018, 01:01:16 AM »
NWS Podunk: We could predict the exact path of tornadoes 24 hours in advance and half the people in its way would wait until the sky gets dark to leave.

Rick Smith: I disagree with this. Half is too low!

Gary Szatkowski: Did you factor in how many people would come from miles away to gather on the 'edge' of the path and see the tornado?

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« Reply #2282 on: July 23, 2018, 01:58:37 PM »
The max of 41.1 C recorded earlier today at Kumagaya, Japan is the highest official temperature ever recorded in Japan. It broke the old national Japanese temperature record by 0.1 C


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« Reply #2283 on: July 25, 2018, 05:28:35 PM »
National Weather Service got to national news with a climate change story, https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-10296525, mainly what was already known, winters have become almost a  month shorter in southern finland. Local news promoted soil carbon-adding agriculture.  :) :-* :)
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« Reply #2284 on: August 01, 2018, 04:15:29 PM »
July 2018 in Finland was the warmest in measurement history surpassing the old record from 1941 by 0,4 degrees Celsius. 19,6°C is the new record, with Lapland hitting 5°C above normals whereas elsewhere temperatures were only 2,5-4°C above normals. Highest this year has been 33,7°C, nowhere near the record of 37,2°C, measured in Joensuu on 29th of July, 2010.
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« Reply #2285 on: August 02, 2018, 08:43:45 AM »
In Murmansk, July 2018 was only the second warmest (the warmest was in 1960), though monthly temperature was 5,3°C above normal. Nevertheless, yesterday Murmansk got the highest temperature of August. 30,2°C.

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« Reply #2286 on: August 02, 2018, 04:08:59 PM »
Highest point in Sweden has changed due glacial melting, the icy south peak of Kebnekaise has lost 20 m and is now lower than the stony north peak.
A bit more:
https://www.thelocal.se/20180802/arctic-heat-melts-away-swedens-highest-peak-kebnekaise
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« Reply #2287 on: August 02, 2018, 09:57:38 PM »
Here along the coast weather systems moving east across the country at times stall, in the past this would only perhaps bring a little more rain.  These days they stall and ocean air retrogrades over the coast. The result is dirty air, it stinks, not like low tide Ocean smell, just foul & dark grey in color. This has happened 3-4 times over the last 2 months.

Adding this to SLR & increasing violent storms the coast is not a good place to live.

I was just in Michigan for a spell,  the air was refreshing, fresh and crisp with the North West winds.

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« Reply #2288 on: August 03, 2018, 04:22:06 AM »
Rumor, anecdotal , and I wasn't there.
During the Calif. Mid. State Fair a large number of pigs died of heat exposure . Maybe 60.  Temperatures reached 111 F and 109 F for the last couple days of the fair. I can't find any news coverage because it is tragic and brutal and it hurts too much . But there it is , climate change death and our feeble tolerance to pain.
It don't make good copy.
And we are going to be burying the bad stories, and we don't want to hear about climate change , or hard cold evidence. And we won't. Na na na na na na

https://www.sanluisobispo.com/entertainment/mid-state-fair/article215361510.html

And no there is no mention of pig mortality in this article... Just people trying to excape the heat.

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« Reply #2289 on: August 03, 2018, 06:47:20 AM »
Bruce


I remember that when they were navigating from Tahiti to Hawaii in a recreated double canoe they had problems with the modern pigs they took along. Sunscreen, frequent sprinklings with ocean water & plenty of shade were required.


Humans appear to be much more able to withstand the high temperatures than our modern porcine pals. Your own furry breed might do better against direct sun's rays, but high temperatures would probably prove just as fatal.


I wonder if they'd appreciate a misting system to keep the temperature down when they're separated from a wallow.


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« Reply #2290 on: August 03, 2018, 07:44:56 AM »
Terry, They need a wallow.
I don't know how many other swallows died in the earlier heatwave that killed the ones in my window eaves . I think there is damage we just don't see but I think we would prefer to look away anyhow.
I have looked for the last decade into acidification and it will proceed without notice because it is even more obscure than dead barn swallows or stressed farm livestock.
 You'd think an old pig farmer might be toughened up to such things.
 And yes an old breed like the Mangalitsas I raise are hardier but on hot days I keep a vigil because all pigs are very sensitive to heat. I however get to sneak back into the AC between rounds.
 Maybe it's morbid but we should have reality TV in the slums of Mumbai when temps push human endurance so we can see it . Don't worry it ain't gonna happen but most of us need to open our eyes.
We watch the Barrow Ice Cam but maybe we need a Mumbai wet bulb cam .

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« Reply #2291 on: August 03, 2018, 08:26:02 AM »
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Both insects and insectivores seem in short supply here in southern Ontario. A single dragonfly spotted in an afternoon on the river! The robins came north far too early this year and I've seen none recently.
Blue Green Algae seems to be having a bumper year however. :'(
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« Reply #2292 on: August 03, 2018, 08:53:42 AM »
Bruce thank you for your occasional "stories from the trenches". I share a feeling of helpless despair.

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« Reply #2293 on: August 03, 2018, 02:57:31 PM »
Maybe it's morbid but we should have reality TV in the slums of Mumbai when temps push human endurance so we can see it . Don't worry it ain't gonna happen but most of us need to open our eyes.
We watch the Barrow Ice Cam but maybe we need a Mumbai wet bulb cam .

30 year career in manufacturing where you measure and chart everything. We need to start measuring and charting warm weather fatalities and publicize them.

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« Reply #2294 on: August 03, 2018, 04:17:17 PM »
.. it seems no problem to count the dead after a few chill days in winter .. usually hear figures like 15 or 30 thousand extra deaths in the UK  .. and no one cares .. so if 15 0r 30 people die in a heatwave .. who will rise up in horror ?  b.c.
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« Reply #2295 on: August 03, 2018, 07:55:46 PM »

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« Reply #2296 on: August 03, 2018, 07:57:50 PM »
Last year we also had a heatwave i think in Oktober, but it was not that dry. Now they also predict it will be much more dry than normal.

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« Reply #2297 on: August 04, 2018, 04:41:46 PM »
I am fairly sure this winter is going to be completely absurd (i.e., extremely cold and snowy), at least for Eastern North America. The shift to cold continents / warm Arctic since 2012 is unmistakeable undeniable and only worsening.


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« Reply #2298 on: August 04, 2018, 08:21:14 PM »
I am fairly sure this winter is going to be completely absurd (i.e., extremely cold and snowy), at least for Eastern North America. The shift to cold continents / warm Arctic since 2012 is unmistakeable undeniable and only worsening.

Would love cold and snowy for north america...best possible weather for agriculture.

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« Reply #2299 on: August 04, 2018, 09:54:51 PM »
I am fairly sure this winter is going to be completely absurd (i.e., extremely cold and snowy), at least for Eastern North America. The shift to cold continents / warm Arctic since 2012 is unmistakeable undeniable and only worsening.

I got curious about WACCy results so I created this gif, ERA-I temperature difference of 1979-2000 vs 2007-2017.  (click to animate)
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