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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2250 on: June 30, 2018, 07:31:23 AM »
Well said anthropocene.

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« Reply #2251 on: June 30, 2018, 06:00:41 PM »
In my lifetime (now 70), especially recent decades, 90+ (32C) degree days have increased considerably in the US where they normally occur. (Semantic problem: previous vs. current norms, both of which include days in 90s (and 100s (38C); now there are more of them.) Wunderground keeps track (recent one doesn't cover stats: https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Denver-Matches-All-Time-High-105F-Heat-Spreads-East-Weekend), and my local weather covers trends as well.

In Boston and Princeton, we have a week of over 90  starting today (Princeton 5-10F hotter on average), being part of DelMarVa (Delaware/Maryland/Virginia) region, which used to be ocean bottom, is humid hot lowland compared to mid-New Jersey - 30 miles north - childhood home). 3-4 days is normal; a week is not. Nighttime temps are over 70 (21C) for the week; the change in nighttime temps is bigger than daytime ones.

A good friend in Yorkshire notes the ongoing drought and heat there. England is in trouble (and those wildfires near Manchester, though they've occurred before, these are bigger and harder to extinguish.

As I understand it, this year is supposed to be cooler on average after the recent El Nino, but what I'm experiencing feels like we've crossed over into a new normal.

Looking at a map, note the size of the US and variation in regions, both geographically and politically.
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In terms of land mass, the United States and Europe are similar in size—the United States is 9,833,000 square kilometers while Europe is 10,180,000 square kilometers—however, European countries are closer in size to eastern states in America (which are smaller and closer together than western states)
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2252 on: June 30, 2018, 09:04:10 PM »
I live in Chicago...mid 90's through the weekend with high humidity...no air conditioning...will do fine.

In times gone by, we had no air conditioning to cope with 90-degree temperatures, and we coped.

The U.S. population as a whole today skews older, poorer, fatter, and sicker (e.g., diabetes, and the cardio-vascular and renal complications thereof).  Much less able to withstand heat, both physically and economically.

And well stupider! Suffering 90 Fahrenheit they well deserve. What a joke. It's not even 100! No empathy here. Bring on the fucken climate change. They want to suffer. They need to suffer. What else to tell the leading science denying nation?


Wow so much either a lack of appreciation of the conditions in the past or lack of empathy.
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« Reply #2253 on: July 01, 2018, 04:33:01 PM »
Four ballplayers are removed from baseball game due to heat. All received IV's to recover.

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/players-forced-to-leave-twins-cubs-game-due-to-heat-illnesses-487039061.html

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« Reply #2254 on: July 02, 2018, 03:17:12 PM »
I live in Chicago...mid 90's through the weekend with high humidity...no air conditioning...will do fine.

In times gone by, we had no air conditioning to cope with 90-degree temperatures, and we coped.

The U.S. population as a whole today skews older, poorer, fatter, and sicker (e.g., diabetes, and the cardio-vascular and renal complications thereof).  Much less able to withstand heat, both physically and economically.

And well stupider! Suffering 90 Fahrenheit they well deserve. What a joke. It's not even 100! No empathy here. Bring on the fucken climate change. They want to suffer. They need to suffer. What else to tell the leading science denying nation?


Wow so much either a lack of appreciation of the conditions in the past or lack of empathy.
Ha!

According to the National Weather Service, this are the years with the most 90+ degree days in Chicago:

1988:  47
1955:  46
2012:  46
1959:  39
1952:  38
1954:  36
1964:  35
1971:  35
1944:  34
1977:  33
1987:  33
1934:  32

Only one year since the turn of the century made this list.  There were more 90+ degree days in the 1950s than the 2000s.  Even 100+ degrees were more frequent.  In the 30-year period from 1930-1959, twenty seven 100+ degrees were recorded.  In the past 30 years, there have been only 11, and none since 2012.  Considering the city tops 100 on average every 4.5 years, they are overdue.  The highest recorded temperature was 105 in 1934. 


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« Reply #2255 on: July 03, 2018, 01:07:26 AM »
Dangerous heat wave won't let up across U.S.
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Extreme heat and humidity will continue through the end of the holiday week across the eastern U.S., before it shifts westward, roasting the Midwest and Great Plains, potentially setting records and intensifying ongoing wildfires all the way to California.

Why it matters: Heat is the top weather killer in the U.S. during most years. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 600 people are killed every year due to heat-related illnesses in the U.S.
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Historical context: The actual air temperatures during this heat wave are not smashing all-time records in most cases, since they're only 10 to 20 degrees Fahrenheit above average for this time of year. However, the combination of heat and humidity, plus the long duration of this event, make it a public health threat.

Daily high temperature records have fallen in some places, along with records for the highest overnight low temperature.  Research has shown when air temperatures fail to cool below about 80 degrees Fahrenheit overnight, the risk of heat-related illnesses, including heat stroke, increases.  On Sunday night into Monday morning, the temperature failed to drop below that 80-degree threshold in New York City and other locations along the East Coast.

What's next: The heat should peak along the East Coast on Monday, but high temperatures all week are likely to reach or exceed 90 degrees Fahrenheit from the Mid-Atlantic to New England, which may put this event in the top 10 for long duration heat events.

Meteorologists define heat waves as occurring once the temperature hits or goes above 90 degrees for at least three consecutive days. Many locations in the East are on their fourth or fifth such day as of Monday, with no relief expected until next weekend.
https://www.axios.com/dangerous-heat-wave-high-temperatures-heat-index-0984be66-9e10-4375-a781-1d82a1702af7.html
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2256 on: July 03, 2018, 01:18:53 AM »
With the humidity, we hit a high of 42 C today here in central Ontario. So much for the Great White North, eh.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2257 on: July 03, 2018, 01:49:13 AM »
Re Chicago temperatures: Before 1980, official temperatures were recorded at Midway, since 1980 at O'Hare. O'Hare is generally somewhat cooler than Midway, so pre-1980 and post-1980 temperature statistics comparisons have little value without siting adjustments.


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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2259 on: July 03, 2018, 05:58:42 PM »
I always hated cold so since early childhood i am obsessed with the arrival of spring (and the Romans because they actually had floor heating). In the late seventies/early eighties it used to be cold in the Netherlands in March then it usually got better towards the end of April.

It is basically like the dutch proverb: Maart roert zijn staart en april doet wat hij wil.

In the early noughties i lived near a park which was full of chickens. I loved to watch the breeding season although nature is harsh. Start at 10-12 down to 6 in a day or 2 then a couple more get lost. Then one year we had this balmy January and February was like spring. And there were little chickens. Can't remember the year but it was before 2007 when they removed the chickens due to bird flu and other scares.

Then a decade later in the winter of 2016. It was december and a really bad year for me and winter. There was a rose which i passed nearly daily. It was in full flower mode in december. There were other plants too but i often stopped there and pondered about the meaning of that rose.

None of that was possible in the early eighties...and we have not had a month below the historic temperature average since February 1985. None of my younger colleagues has ever lived in a normal climate if you take the 20th century as a baseline...

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2260 on: July 04, 2018, 01:45:50 AM »
If anyone is posting local temperatures, would they please post the actual temperatures, not the fancified "heat index" ones?  It's distorting and inconsistent.

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« Reply #2261 on: July 04, 2018, 04:21:15 AM »
Extreme Heat Event in Northern Siberia and the coastal Arctic Ocean This Week
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This isn’t typically what I would write about in this blog, as I typically cover threatening ocean storms. However, this has implications for the Arctic Ocean and possibly mid-latitude weather. An extreme heat event for this particular region…with high temperatures of greater than 40 degrees F above recent normals…will impact the coast of the Arctic Ocean (specifically the Laptev Sea and Eastern Siberian Sea) Wednesday-Friday. This will generate maximum daily temperatures as high as 90-95 degrees near the open ocean coast!

Yes,  you read that correctly.


Needless to say, a true roasting for this area.

I’ve looked over the European model and there appears to be general agreement over the intensity and timing of this extreme event. It is absolutely incredible and really one of the most intense heat events I’ve ever seen for so far north. Climate change has sent temps skyrocketing in the far north of the planet over just the past 20 years. While that’s been quite reflected in the rapid rise in wintertime temperatures, it’s increasingly being reflected in summertime temperatures as more and more sea ice disappears earlier in the season, leaving more dark blue ocean to absorb more daytime sunlight. This heating of the ocean surface by low albedo (very low reflectivity…little sunlight being reflected back off into space) causes some heat to be released back to heat the atmosphere above, speeding up warming of the Arctic region. This is known as Arctic Amplification. And one larger-scale hemispheric consequence being actively researched by Dr. Jennifer Francis (YouTube Video Presentation) and on others is that Arctic Amplification is causing an abrupt weakening of the polar jet stream (on timescales of just the past decade or two), the main feature which steers and intensifies weather patterns in the mid-latitudes. The weakening is causing the polar jet to become much wavier, with greater wave “breaks” and blocking patterns where waves sit in the same place for weeks promote extreme weather patterns (extreme cold relative to normal as well as extreme heat, very wet, and drought conditions).

2018 has unfortunately been a prime example of global warming’s effect on the jet stream. And northern Siberia has been getting blowtorched by heat that refuses to quit because of an ongoing blocked pattern favorable for intense heat. ...
https://wxclimonews.com/2018/07/02/extreme-heat-event-in-northern-siberia-and-the-coastal-arctic-ocean-this-week/
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« Reply #2262 on: July 04, 2018, 02:33:14 PM »
The UK has had, (after a good many years), what used to be known as a "flaming June". See table attached. This dry and hot (for us in the UK) weather is expected to continue to at least mid-July. It is all due to that high that is blocking Atlantic lows from reaching us, and sending them up the North Atlantic. (Yet more warmth to increase Atlantification of the Eastern Arctic Ocean?)

Is this another bit of evidence that due to weakening of the polar vortex, big, sloppy, long-lasting Rossby waves tend to ensure that a weather pattern once established persists (i.e. the new normal)? And as AGW continues, will in time that new normal (if it exists) be destroyed ?

From a post by AbruptSLR
https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1053.msg137632.html#msg137632
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Michael E. Mann et al. (2017), "Influence of Anthropogenic Climate Change on Planetary Wave Resonance and Extreme Weather Events", Scientific Reports 7, Article number: 45242, doi:10.1038/srep45242

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep45242

Abstract: "Persistent episodes of extreme weather in the Northern Hemisphere summer have been shown to be associated with the presence of high-amplitude quasi-stationary atmospheric Rossby waves within a particular wavelength range (zonal wavenumber 6–8).
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« Reply #2263 on: July 05, 2018, 02:29:52 AM »
Briefly: Top numbers for the current global heat wave.

By the numbers: Heat causes record-breaking temperatures across the world
https://www.axios.com/heat-wave-records-broken-this-week-temperatures-da7703e4-a99d-4a6e-9b7d-3b5ca0b4d896.html
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« Reply #2264 on: July 05, 2018, 08:51:52 AM »
As I understand it, this year is supposed to be cooler on average after the recent El Nino, but what I'm experiencing feels like we've crossed over into a new normal.

Kevin Trenberth mentioned a possible step up in spring 2014, before the last El Nino. At the end of this interview:



The next one is brewing but no real signs of atmospheric coupling yet, so maybe next year. Doesn't matter much when it comes. What matters is what we are doing. Which is not much.  :(
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« Reply #2265 on: July 05, 2018, 08:54:00 AM »
What else to tell the leading science denying nation?

Cronkite tried.

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Which is the best answer to Sep-2012 ASI lost (compared to 1979-2000)?
50% [NSIDC Extent] or
73% [PIOMAS Volume]

Volume is harder to measure than extent, but 3-dimensional space is real, 2D's hide ~50% thickness gone.
-> IPCC/NSIDC trends [based on extent] underestimate the real speed of ASI lost.

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« Reply #2267 on: July 05, 2018, 04:15:40 PM »
@Sleepy. Trenberth is great, thanks.

Actually, the US and UK (and no doubt other parts of the self-privileged "first world") are reversing progress. Theresa May's government is not far behind Trump in stealing everything that isn't bolted down (to "win" and for profit) and promoting fossil uber alles. Meanwhile, the moors around Manchester are burning, and they don't have the common sense to fight it with everything they've got: a dab here, a dab there, it all doesn't add up.

Here in the US, the pace of destruction defies description. Every day in every way, we are getting worse and more oblivious. It has become fashionable to ignore reality. Meanwhile, the left is too busy squabbling to present a united front against pure evil.

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« Reply #2268 on: July 05, 2018, 10:02:22 PM »
Those who died didn't have air conditioning in their homes and had health issues.

“Montreal ambulance services have reached their limits due to health concerns from extreme heat. This heat wave makes it clear that city governments need serious policies for adapting to rising temps. If this can happen in Canada, it can happen everywhere.”
https://twitter.com/algore/status/1014915505944227846

July 4, 2018: 
Deaths rise as record heat continues to scorch southern Quebec
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The wave started last Friday and is the worst to hit Quebec in decades.

Mayor asks for public's help

Montreal Mayor Valérie Plante said at a news conference that, "we're doing everything we can." She pointed to the city's response, which includes opening swimming pools and air-conditioned areas to the public, distributing water to those in need and having first responders checking in on vulnerable citizens.

Plante said 15,000 people were visited by firefighters and police yesterday to make sure they could cope with the heat. ...
https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4732709
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« Reply #2269 on: July 05, 2018, 11:05:24 PM »
Red-hot planet: All-time heat records have been set...

One provisional record mentioned in the wp has been since discounted. The UKMO have disregarded the high temperature/new Scottish all time record taken at Motherwell because of non-standard exposure.

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« Reply #2270 on: July 06, 2018, 02:03:43 AM »
Australia:

Weatherzone (@weatherzone)
7/4/18, 11:52 PM
“#Sydney is having its hottest day on record for the first week of July. The previous record was 24.1C in 2004 and the temperature at Obs Hill had reached 24.3C [75.7° F] by 1:40pm today.”
https://twitter.com/weatherzone/status/1014718744755499008
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« Reply #2271 on: July 07, 2018, 12:31:33 AM »
Africa’s Hottest Reliably Measured Temperature on Record: 124.3°F on Thursday in Algeria
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A historic heat wave in northern Africa on Thursday, July 5, brought Africa its hottest reliably measured temperature on record: 124.3°F (51.3°C), at Ouargla, Algeria. Ouargla (population 190,000) is the capital city of Ouargla Province in the Algerian Sahara Desert, at an elevation of 719 feet (219 meters). ...
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Africas-Hottest-Reliably-Measured-Temperature-Record-1243F-Thursday-Algeria
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« Reply #2272 on: July 07, 2018, 02:11:54 AM »
terarchy--rule by monsters...pretty much what we have now, certainly in the US, and arguably globally
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« Reply #2273 on: July 07, 2018, 02:46:23 AM »
Europe’s sunny weather makes for a sorry summer in Reykjavik
REYKJAVIK, Iceland (AP) — Pop singer Helgi Bjornsson, who is well-known in his native Iceland for a 1980s hit titled “I Do Like the Rain,” recently appeared on national television while a deadpan reporter challenged him to defend the song’s premise.

The people of Reykjavik do not like the rain anymore. This summer has been so gray and wet in the capital of Iceland that meteorologists have to look as far back as 1914 to find records for a worse May and June.
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During June, the month of midnight sun and camping holidays in Iceland, sunshine touched Reykjavik for a total of 70 hours. The temperature reached 13.2 degrees Celsius (56 F) on the warmest day, two degrees shy of Reykjavik’s average for the month.

In May, it rained every single day.


(...)
https://apnews.com/a947ab13c1bc4c1c86c29e72c0f14c5d

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P.S.: Stupid AP. It is Björnsson with Ö. And I guess the song is this: "Mér finnst rigningin góð" which google translates as "I think the rain is good".



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« Reply #2274 on: July 08, 2018, 12:49:19 AM »
Southern California; Los Angeles.

“Map of all the stations around LA currently reporting a temp of 115° (46.1°C) or higher
There's, um, quite a few of them #LAHeatwave”
https://twitter.com/gdimeweather/status/1015368735044009986
Image below.

“For those that aren’t familiar, while most of us have our hottest average temperatures in July, SoCal usually has theirs in early September (I’m sure there’s a @Climatologist49 map for this). This sort of heat in July there is incredible. Natl wx this week has been something else”
https://twitter.com/mattlanza/status/1015432464221790211


“Infrared isn't working on police airships because the surroundings are giving off warmer heat signatures than people. At nighttime. In Los Angeles.”
https://twitter.com/bergopolis/status/1015451020153913344

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« Reply #2275 on: July 08, 2018, 04:40:46 PM »
Southern California

“Burbank, CA has broken the city's all time hottest observed temperature on record. Temperatures are currently at 113F, which breaks the old record high of 111.9F set back in July 2006.”
https://mobile.twitter.com/MJVentrice/status/1015347462964416512
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« Reply #2276 on: July 08, 2018, 06:52:22 PM »
Wow! Meanwhile, Super Typhoon Maria now at 160 mph, headed for China; looks like it's headed north of Taiwan but will be broken down a bit before landfall:
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/western-pacific/2018/super-typhoon-maria


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« Reply #2278 on: July 13, 2018, 08:04:20 PM »
https://www.hln.be/wetenschap-planeet/milieu/ijsberg-van-100-meter-hoog-bedreigt-kust-van-groenland-inwoners-uit-voorzorg-geevacueerd~acad4f17/

Worth posting the image (and the commentary)

Een 100 meter hoge ijsberg op drift bedreigt de kusten van Groenland. De lokale autoriteiten hebben uit voorzorg alvast mensen geëvacueerd.
De Groenlandse politie maande de kustbewoners van het eiland Innaarsuit aan weg te trekken van de kust. Ze vreest dat hun woningen onderlopen als het reusachtige ijsblok breekt. “We vrezen dat de ijsberg kalft, wat een overstroming zou veroorzaken”, aldus veiligheidschef Lina Davidsen.

Het dorp, dat in het noordwesten van Groenland ligt, telt 169 inwoners. Enkel zij die in de nabijheid van de ijsberg wonen, werden geëvacueerd. “De ijsberg drijft nog altijd dicht bij het dorp, de politie is aan het bespreken hoe het nu verder moet”, zei Kunuk Frediksen, een hoge officier van de Groenlandse politie.
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« Reply #2279 on: July 13, 2018, 08:53:24 PM »
Google doesn't know one or two of the words, but:
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A 100 meter high iceberg adrift threatens the coasts of Greenland. The local authorities have already evacuated people from precaution.
The Greenlandic police have been Innaarsuit [giving orders to???] the coastal inhabitants of the island to pull away from the coast. She fears that their homes are underrunning [under threat???] as the giant ice block breaks. "We fear that the iceberg is calving, which would cause a flood," said chief executive Lina Daviden.

The village, which lies in the northwest of Greenland, has 169 inhabitants. Only those who live in the vicinity of the iceberg were evacuated. "The iceberg still floats close to the village, the police are discussing how to proceed now," said Kunuk Frediksen, a senior officer of the Greenland Police.
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« Reply #2280 on: July 13, 2018, 09:14:57 PM »
Google doesn't know one or two of the words, but:
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"The iceberg still floats close to the village, the police are discussing how to proceed now," said Kunuk Frediksen, a senior officer of the Greenland Police.

Get out there and push ( I wonder if its grounded)
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2281 on: July 13, 2018, 09:35:01 PM »
or wait for high tide, then push.  The berg on the near side is clearly higher in the water than it used to be and may well be perched on some rocks.  (Weight shifting [caused by, e.g., lost edge] can cause this look as well, without being grounded.)
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2282 on: July 13, 2018, 11:57:16 PM »
Must be quite deep close to the shoreline, as only 10% of the berg is above surface and it's said in the article it's 100 m high, we have 900 m below surface. Hard to see how that thing could sail ashore...

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2283 on: July 14, 2018, 08:12:25 PM »
“The first six months of the year have made it the hottest La Niña year to date on record,” said Clare Nullis of the WMO.

Heatwave sees record high temperatures around world this week
From Europe to Africa, extreme and widespread heat raises climate concerns in hottest La Niña year to date on record
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/heatwave-sees-record-high-temperatures-set-around-world-this-week
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« Reply #2284 on: July 15, 2018, 05:42:27 AM »
“The first six months of the year have made it the hottest La Niña year to date on record,” said Clare Nullis of the WMO.

Heatwave sees record high temperatures around world this week
From Europe to Africa, extreme and widespread heat raises climate concerns in hottest La Niña year to date on record
https://amp.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/13/heatwave-sees-record-high-temperatures-set-around-world-this-week

I would bet a handshake that next years El-Nino is going to be a massive record breaker.

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2285 on: July 15, 2018, 11:15:06 AM »
hundreds died in flooding in Japan .. worth recording it happened ?  b.c.
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« Reply #2286 on: July 15, 2018, 11:19:25 AM »
Wierd or anecdotal?
The heat and drought in Sweden since May is not enough, we are still flying abroad more.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/trots-varmen-fler-reser-utomlands
7-8% more travels this summer. The sun is obviously a lot better around the Mediterranean Sea or in the US.  ::)
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« Reply #2287 on: July 15, 2018, 01:00:00 PM »
hundreds died in flooding in Japan .. worth recording it happened ?  b.c.

It was covered extensively in the Floods thread:  https://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1951.msg162449.html#msg162449 
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« Reply #2288 on: July 16, 2018, 06:19:48 PM »
Wierd or anecdotal?
The heat and drought in Sweden since May is not enough, we are still flying abroad more.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/trots-varmen-fler-reser-utomlands
7-8% more travels this summer. The sun is obviously a lot better around the Mediterranean Sea or in the US.  ::)

They probably have a wish for skin cancer or something from higher UV radiation....

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« Reply #2289 on: July 16, 2018, 08:24:07 PM »
Bill McKibben (@billmckibben)
7/16/18, 2:00 PM
“Huh. We've swamped the atmosphere with so much methane that it is producing new cloud patterns. That seems a tad ominous ...”
https://twitter.com/billmckibben/status/1018918335554228227

Methane Is Giving Noctilucent Clouds a Boost
https://www.wunderground.com/cat6/Methane-Giving-Noctilucent-Clouds-Boost
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2290 on: July 17, 2018, 06:47:42 AM »
Wierd or anecdotal?
The heat and drought in Sweden since May is not enough, we are still flying abroad more.
https://www.svt.se/nyheter/inrikes/trots-varmen-fler-reser-utomlands
7-8% more travels this summer. The sun is obviously a lot better around the Mediterranean Sea or in the US.  ::)

They probably have a wish for skin cancer or something from higher UV radiation....

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2291 on: July 17, 2018, 08:32:43 PM »
Hot spots.
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2292 on: July 17, 2018, 10:46:25 PM »
Heck, if there weren't a gazillion of mosquitos I would prefer Finland over the Mediterranean or the Carribean (or any other such sun starved place) for summer vacation!
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2294 on: July 18, 2018, 07:55:33 AM »
Sweden is battling a historic wildfire outbreak. Here's what you need to know
described by the Swedish Civil Contingencies Agency as the country's "most serious" wildfire situation of modern times.
Sweden experienced its hottest May on record, and several cities saw their hottest individual May days since records began 150 years ago.
https://www.thelocal.se/20180717/sweden-battles-most-serious-wildfire-situation-of-modern-times-heres-what-you-need-to-know
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2295 on: July 18, 2018, 08:14:08 AM »
Hot spots.
Here's the real thing by SMHI.
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2296 on: July 19, 2018, 07:55:06 AM »
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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2297 on: July 19, 2018, 03:33:40 PM »
I live in Chicago...mid 90's through the weekend with high humidity...no air conditioning...will do fine.

In times gone by, we had no air conditioning to cope with 90-degree temperatures, and we coped.

The U.S. population as a whole today skews older, poorer, fatter, and sicker (e.g., diabetes, and the cardio-vascular and renal complications thereof).  Much less able to withstand heat, both physically and economically.

And well stupider! Suffering 90 Fahrenheit they well deserve. What a joke. It's not even 100! No empathy here. Bring on the fucken climate change. They want to suffer. They need to suffer. What else to tell the leading science denying nation?


Wow so much either a lack of appreciation of the conditions in the past or lack of empathy.
Ha!

According to the National Weather Service, this are the years with the most 90+ degree days in Chicago:

1988:  47
1955:  46
2012:  46
1959:  39
1952:  38
1954:  36
1964:  35
1971:  35
1944:  34
1977:  33
1987:  33
1934:  32

Only one year since the turn of the century made this list.  There were more 90+ degree days in the 1950s than the 2000s.  Even 100+ degrees were more frequent.  In the 30-year period from 1930-1959, twenty seven 100+ degrees were recorded.  In the past 30 years, there have been only 11, and none since 2012.  Considering the city tops 100 on average every 4.5 years, they are overdue.  The highest recorded temperature was 105 in 1934.

Picking summer temps in IL is a bit of cherry-picking as this is the state with the least amount of summer temperature change in this century so far (about half of the summers between 2000 and present have been below normal and half above normal).

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Re: Weird Weather and anecdotal stories about climate change
« Reply #2298 on: July 19, 2018, 08:25:28 PM »
This may or may not not be “weird,” and it’s certainly not “anecdotal” — but it has one freaky-looking GIF.  Differences in tornado locations from year to year do not seem random.

Annual tornado occurrences (start locations by EF rating) using @thomasp85 gganimate, @hadleywickham ggplot, and @edzerpebesma sf.”
https://twitter.com/JBElsner/status/1020002736996265984
Image below; GIF at the link.
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« Reply #2299 on: July 19, 2018, 08:30:04 PM »
As one tweet remarked:
Fascinating animation. It seems almost like there's a two-year alternation between more clustered and more dispersed tornado occurrences. Is that a real thing?