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Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« on: August 17, 2013, 04:36:53 PM »
I can see Arctic Drilling topics regarding the US, and Shell, but I found an article from Norway... so I agree with Neven and I started this central Arctic Drilling thread... now.    :D

Well, it is the Greenland AND Arctic Circle category. Could've gone into the Arctic Sea Ice or Consequences section, but this will do. Maybe what's needed is a central drilling thread, but we'll reconsider it in 2015, or hopefully later.

    Arctic drilling too risky warns Norwegian study on ‘stranded assets’

"Arctic and deepwater drilling will prove too costly to exploit as governments work to limit temperature rise to below 2°C, warns a new report aimed at analysing Norway’s oil and gas industry’s exposure to stranded assets.

The major new report, commissioned by the Norwegian Ministry of the Environment is the latest analysis to raise concerns over the formation of a ‘carbon bubble’. It assessed the potential consequences of reduced CO2 emissions on global oil and gas production.

...Significantly, it predicts that the shift towards cleaner energy sources will mean only the most cost-effective oil resources will be exploited, calculating that any field with a break-even price of more than $72 per barrel is unlikely to prove viable.

The report states that this cut-off point would make 60% of fields that have been discovered but undeveloped uncommercial, including reserves in the Arctic and other deepwater zones."

http://tcktcktck.org/2013/08/arctic-drilling-too-risky-warns-norwegian-study-on-stranded-assets/55855
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Greenpeace to defy Russia by entering Arctic seas without permit
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2013, 03:34:03 PM »
Not sure where to post this story, but it might as well be here. Although over 400 ships have been granted permission to sail the Northern Sea Route, Greenpeace has applied three times for permission to sail its icebreaker in Russian waters and has been turned down each time, and each time for a different reason. They have decided to sail into the Kara Sea anyway. They say the purpose of their mission is to see what's going on and to stage a peaceful protest against the exploitation of the Arctic. Story here.

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Re: Arctic Drilling
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2013, 12:11:07 AM »
"The Netherlands today said Greenpeace's right to peaceful protest was "indisputable" after the environmental group defied Russian authorities by deploying an icebreaker through an Arctic shipping route without permission."

http://m.economictimes.com/news/international-business/dutch-back-greenpeace-ships-arctic-oil-drilling-protest/articleshow/22055264.cms
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2013, 12:14:44 AM »
The FAA has approved ConocoPhillips' plans to fly unmanned drones in Alaska to aid its oil drilling efforts.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2013/08/26/2524731/drones-conocophillips-alaska/
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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2013, 04:30:49 PM »
The Greenpeace ship Arctic Star has turned back after being boarded by the Russian Coastguard.

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Russia’s ministry of transport reportedly justified denying the vessel permission to enter its waters, by saying Greenpeace had not provided information about the ship’s hull protection.

Greenpeace said that two previous requests for permission to enter Russian waters had not sought that information.

Later on Aug. 26, the Arctic Sunrise had decided to leave Russian waters “under threat of force from the Russian Coast Guard,” Greenpeace said.

“We are a peaceful protest ship and have done nothing to warrant the threat of force against us. We now are leaving the area to avoid any risk to our crew, but we will not stop until offshore drilling in the Arctic is banned and will continue to shine a light on the secretive activities of oil companies in the Russian Arctic. We won’t be intimidated into silence,” said Christy Ferguson, Greenpeace activist on board the Arctic Sunrise.

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Re: Arctic Drilling
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2013, 08:49:20 AM »
While the focus of concern about the activities of the fossil fuel industry was Shell North of Alaska in 2012, Gazpromneft in the Pechora (SE Barentsz-) Sea, there may raise new worries.

Yesterday an independent Swedish oil exploration company published a fin don a site called ‘Loppa Height’, NNW of Hammerfest, Norway, on the SW periphery of the Barentsz Sea.
I remembered having read about an intriguing undersea feature, not far from that location, the “Haakon Mosby mud volcano”. I muddled around a bit on the search words Loppa-Haakon Mosby. That produced some interesting views on the geomorphology of this region.

I may be an alarmist, not be thorough enough to be taken too seriously. Knowing that, I’m not making a claim that this should be the new hotspot for international protest.

But dig this, that location is geologically much more challenging than the place where the Prirazlomnoye platform has been anchored by Gazpromneft. The Loppa Heights is part of a fractured Rift margin just next to the continental slope into the Norwegian Basin. It’s seabed is crossed by ‘Graben’ (sediment filled stretch canyons) and the deeper crust layers are torn and dislocated by the late Mesozoïc opening of the North Atlantic.

The mud volcano sits on part of this slope,  1250 m below SL. AWI research has shown that there is a ’natural’ seep of methane. This corresponds with a scheme of crust water and hydrocarbons in a very volatile environment. Is this a safe place to start extracting oil?

On the slope, there’s lots of evidence for slide events. There may be deposits of methane clathrates out there too. Drilling won’t trigger a sort of “Storegga-slide”. But it will be a costly operation to do this safe. In my humble opinion too costly.

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Re: Arctic Drilling
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2013, 09:53:24 AM »
Russia starts pumping oil at Arctic rig raided by Greenpeace
http://au.sports.yahoo.com/news/gazprom-starts-oil-production-arctic-150031230--spt.html

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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2014, 03:51:13 PM »
Exxon and Rosneft are going to drill in the Arctic Ocean this year

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Exxon Mobil Corp. (XOM) and OAO Rosneft (ROSN) are set to start their first Arctic well this year, targeting a deposit that may hold more oil than Norway’s North Sea. It will kick off a series of landmark projects and cement an alliance begun in 2011. They also plan to frack shale fields in Siberia, sink a deep-water well in the Black Sea and build a natural-gas export terminal in Russia’s Far East. ....

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-02/exxon-s-russia-ambitions-show-drilling-trumps-obama-putin-spats.html
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Re: Arctic Drilling
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2014, 06:47:42 PM »
I am so proud to announce that a French companies will also eat the cake... :'( :'( :'(
http://total.com/en/energies-expertise/oil-gas/exploration-production/projects-achievements/lng/yamal-lng

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Re: Arctic Drilling
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Re: Arctic Drilling
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2014, 01:31:02 PM »
Despite recent sanctions, Exxon Mobil partner starts drilling in Russia's Arctic.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101908319
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Re: Arctic Drilling
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2014, 02:32:26 AM »
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Re: Arctic Drilling
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2014, 02:17:55 AM »
Royal Dutch Shell wants the U.S. government to give it another five-year crack at drilling in the Arctic.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/10/30/3586227/shell-drilling-arctic-delay/
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2014, 05:18:21 PM »
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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2014, 11:35:58 AM »
Shell sub contractor Noble drilling pleads guilty to 8 felony counts from their disastrous 2012 season in the Arctic.
What's $12,000,000 in fines when OIL is the prey.


 http://www.fresnobee.com/2014/12/19/4294432_arctic-offshore-drill-company.html?rh=1


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« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2014, 01:38:22 AM »
Merry Christmas, Arctic!  Chevron cancels plans to drill in Canada's Beaufort Sea, due to oil price drop.

 http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N0U137H20141217
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« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2015, 07:56:40 PM »
WWF says granting oil exploration licenses by Norway "is the wrong decision."
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WWF encourages all Nordic leaders to show the rest of the world what sustainable economy looks like. “Right now, they need to show leadership, we are in the middle of a transmission from oil economy into new renewable energy sources,” Samantha Smith says arguing that environmental sustainability is a precondition for economic sustainability in the north.

The oil companies that want to test-drill for oil in the Barents Sea get 78 percent of the costs covered by the government in tax refund. An average test drill on the Norwegian continental shelf had a price of NOK 600 million (€68 million) in 2013 of which NOK 500 million (€57 million) then are subsidised by the state.
http://barentsobserver.com/en/arctic/2015/01/arctic-oil-incommensurate-2oc-target-22-01
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« Reply #18 on: February 23, 2015, 08:49:36 PM »
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The Obama administration has proposed the first-ever safety regulations for drilling in the U.S. portion of the Arctic Ocean, where big oil companies have long been hoping to lay their claim.

The proposed rule, which is preliminary and is expected to take at least a year to reach its final version, would for the first time impose specific requirements on oil companies that want to take the plunge into the Arctic’s icy waters. Among those are requirements for companies to have contingency plans for mishaps — companies must be able to “promptly deploy” emergency containment equipment to deal with a spill, and must build a second rig close to their initial operations so a relief well could be drilled in the event of a blowout, among other things.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/02/21/3625602/arctic-drilling-rules/

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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2015, 04:11:54 PM »
Another demonstration of how unprepared Canada is to deal with the opening of the Arctic to shipping.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/ntcl-barge-adrift-in-arctic-ice-now-off-russia-s-coast-1.2991437

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« Reply #20 on: March 12, 2015, 06:37:35 PM »
Shell to use the Port of Seattle to dock its Arctic drilling rigs?  Not so fast.
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For the last two months, outrage over the Port of Seattle’s clandestine leasing of a terminal to Royal Dutch Shell’s Arctic oil drilling fleet has been slowly gaining steam. What began as a quiet deal between the port and Foss Maritime Co., which would work for Shell under the two-year lease, has burgeoned into an expansive debate over the image of one of the country’s greenest cities, the extraction of some of the most remote fossil fuels, and the global effort to confront climate change.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/03/11/3632389/seattle-says-no-drilling-rigs-baby/
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2015, 08:08:30 PM »
Arctic braced for oil rush as Shell eyes return to Alaska
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Before its expected go-ahead to restart work in the Chukchi Sea, Shell told The Sunday Telegraph: “We believe the Alaska Outer Continental Shelf has significant untapped potential and will play an increasingly important role in meeting the energy challenge in the future. Since the late 1980s Shell has successfully drilled over 20 wells in offshore Alaska.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/oilandgas/11500054/Arctic-braced-for-oil-rush-as-Shell-eyes-return-to-Alaska.html
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2015, 09:18:19 PM »
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On Monday, some 750 miles northwest of Hawaii, six Greenpeace activists boarded a Shell oil rig en route from Malaysia to the Port of Seattle in protest of the oil company’s plans for drilling in the Arctic.
http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/04/08/3644257/greenpeace-shell-arctic-rig-protest/
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« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2015, 08:41:01 PM »
Warning: language.

Shell’s oil rig is already falling apart — and it hasn’t even left for the Arctic
http://grist.org/list/shell-oil-noble-discoverer-arctic-rig-has-already-broken-down-but-its-on-its-way-to-seattle/
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2015, 09:20:48 PM »
White House gives conditional approval to allow Shell Gulf of Mexico to drill in the Arctic Ocean this summer
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The Obama administration gave conditional approval on Monday to allow Shell Gulf of Mexico, Inc. to start drilling for oil and gas in the Arctic Ocean this summer.
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The Interior Department's approval of the drilling was conditional on Shell's receiving approval of a series of remaining drilling permits for the project.
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Environmental groups denounced the move and said that Shell had not demonstrated that it can drill safely in the Arctic Ocean.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102668322
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« Reply #25 on: May 15, 2015, 02:49:53 AM »
Shell Oil president:  Arctic drilling a long-term game
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These are potentially very large resources, but resources that would come online 10, 15, 20 years from now, so the current oil price is actually somewhat irrelevant. The size of the resource is what's important," he said in an interview with "Closing Bell."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102680922
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« Reply #26 on: May 15, 2015, 10:11:02 PM »
sHell No!   Pledging resistance to arctic drilling.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2015, 02:20:41 PM »
Canada's NWT discovers a 2 Billion Barrel oil field near Norman Wells.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/neb-and-gnwt-study-finds-200-billion-barrels-of-oil-in-the-sahtu-1.3085806

"If they can extract 3% they are roughly the size of the Bakken play in North Dakota."


Given Canada's masterful handling of the Alberta Tar Sands, we should have no concerns that this find won't be dealt with in an environmentally responsible manner.


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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2015, 12:49:26 AM »
As a northern American, living life long near the boarder in NH, Maine and Michigan, I'd always had a deep respect and admiration for Canada.  Always seemingly slightly more moral than the United States.  Than Harper happened and Canada's worst natural resource policies twisted with the fibers of the tea party and the torries making a strange new coarse and abrasive fiber. 

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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2015, 09:27:04 PM »
As a northern American, living life long near the boarder in NH, Maine and Michigan, I'd always had a deep respect and admiration for Canada.  Always seemingly slightly more moral than the United States.  Than Harper happened and Canada's worst natural resource policies twisted with the fibers of the tea party and the torries making a strange new coarse and abrasive fiber.
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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2015, 09:15:21 PM »
http://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2015/06/11/13-35866.pdf

A federal court yesterday rejected a challenge from environmental groups to the government's approval of Royal Dutch Shell PLC's oil spill response plans for drilling off Alaska's shores.
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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2015, 04:44:05 PM »
Shell's support vessel is damaged, possibly delaying / stopping this year's drilling.

http://climatecrocks.com/2015/07/08/shell-arctic-icebreaker-damaged-drilling-possibly-affected/
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« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2015, 10:01:55 PM »
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MERKLEY ANNOUNCES BILL TO STOP ARCTIC OCEAN DRILLING
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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, Oregon's Senator Jeff Merkley announced the Stop Arctic Ocean Drilling Act of 2015, a major piece of legislation to stop offshore Arctic drilling. The legislation would prevent any new or renewed leases for the exploration, development, or production of oil, natural gas, or any other mineral in the Arctic planning area.
http://www.merkley.senate.gov/news/press-releases/merkley-announces-bill-to-stop-arctic-ocean-drilling
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« Reply #33 on: July 29, 2015, 06:59:28 PM »
Activists Hang From Oregon's St. Johns Bridge to Protest Shell's Arctic Oil Drilling
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At least a dozen climbers with Greenpeace were dangling from a Portland, Oregon, bridge on Wednesday morning — and threatened to do so for days — in protest of Shell's scheduled launch of a ship for Arctic oil exploration.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/activists-hang-oregon-bridge-protest-shells-arctic-oil-drilling-n400306
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« Reply #34 on: July 30, 2015, 09:37:25 PM »
Greenpeace Activists Successfully Blockade Shell Icebreaker Bound for the Arctic
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Call it kayaktivism’s biggest victory to date: On Wednesday morning, a group of 13 climbers associated with Greenpeace rappelled from the St. John’s Bridge in Portland, Oregon, intending to block a Shell icebreaker from returning to the Arctic. On Thursday, in hour 29 of the climbers’ protest on the bridge, Shell’s ship, escorted by the U.S. Coast Guard, was forced to return to port.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/07/30/shell_blockade_greenpeace_activists_stop_an_oil_industry_ship_bound_for.html
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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2015, 01:51:35 AM »
Police Remove Greenpeace Activists from Portland Bridge After They Forced Shell Ship Back to Port
http://m.democracynow.org/stories/15398
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« Reply #36 on: August 07, 2015, 09:41:37 PM »
Inside Shell’s Extreme Plan to Drill for Oil in the Arctic
A global oil glut has tanked prices and cut profits—so why won’t Shell give up on the north?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-08-05/inside-shell-s-extreme-plan-to-drill-for-oil-in-the-arctic
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« Reply #37 on: August 18, 2015, 04:19:15 PM »
jeron said on a separate thread: "I really hope this doesn't turn out to have enormous negative effects in the future"

No matter whether there are oil spills or not, additional extraction of ffs from anywhere will inevitably have "enormous negative effects in the future" known as GW.

But yes, almost inevitably (and very sadly) there will be spills in the Arctic and they will be essentially impossible to clean up.
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« Reply #38 on: August 20, 2015, 06:32:42 AM »
jeron said on a separate thread: "I really hope this doesn't turn out to have enormous negative effects in the future"

No matter whether there are oil spills or not, additional extraction of ffs from anywhere will inevitably have "enormous negative effects in the future" known as GW.

But yes, almost inevitably (and very sadly) there will be spills in the Arctic and they will be essentially impossible to clean up.

oh man, i KEEP thinking about the inevitability of a large ice floe taking out an oil platform (i've seen oil platforms in person, btw).  considering how long it took bp to stop the oil gushing from the deepwater horizon, how long do u think it would take to respond to an arctic oil emergency?  and think of the albedo of an oil slick!!! shell is just throwing their reputation away, and not because they want to drill now, but because they will look so shockingly inept in the near future. 

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« Reply #39 on: August 20, 2015, 07:13:58 AM »
I read an interesting Dutch blog post saying that one of the reasons they're so eager to drill in the Arctic Ocean is that a certain amount of oil needs to flow through the Trans Alaska Pipeline System or else the pipeline gets clogged with thick, frozen oil that doesn't flow fast enough.

I'd never heard about that one.
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« Reply #40 on: August 20, 2015, 08:33:18 PM »
I read an interesting Dutch blog post saying that one of the reasons they're so eager to drill in the Arctic Ocean is that a certain amount of oil needs to flow through the Trans Alaska Pipeline System or else the pipeline gets clogged with thick, frozen oil that doesn't flow fast enough.

I'd never heard about that one.

wow that makes a lot more sense... unfortunately that still doesnt make arctic drilling a good idea.

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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2015, 02:59:42 AM »
The shell drilling site is right in the path of the storm coming through.  Barrow is currently getting hammered as discussed in the melting thread (http://forum.arctic-sea-ice.net/index.php/topic,1149.0.html) and it's only getting worse through the next day. Found the map in the government leasing plan pages. (http://www.boem.gov/uploadedFiles/BOEM/About_BOEM/BOEM_Regions/Alaska_Region/Leasing_and_Plans/Plans/2015-03-31-EP-Revision-2.pdf)
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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2015, 01:53:52 PM »
And indeed drilling was halted because of the storm.

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Out in the Chukchi Sea, the strong wind and waves caused Shell to pause oil drilling efforts because of weather for the first time this summer, said Megan Baldino, a company spokeswoman.

Critical operations, including drilling work on the 400-foot Transocean Polar Pioneer, were “proactively” halted about a day ago, based on forecasts of the storm, she said.

"Safety is paramount," she said.

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Ships in the company’s drilling fleet remain near the Burger drill site, where reports say sustained winds are blowing at about 35 miles an hour and waves are estimated to be about 15 feet high. 

“All our assets are riding out the storm,” she said. “All the crews are all right, but we’ve gotten complaints of a little seasickness, which you can imagine.”

https://www.adn.com/article/20150827/high-winds-causing-big-waves-flooding-barrow

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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #43 on: August 31, 2015, 08:05:48 PM »
jeron said on a separate thread: "I really hope this doesn't turn out to have enormous negative effects in the future"

No matter whether there are oil spills or not, additional extraction of ffs from anywhere will inevitably have "enormous negative effects in the future" known as GW.

But yes, almost inevitably (and very sadly) there will be spills in the Arctic and they will be essentially impossible to clean up.

oh man, i KEEP thinking about the inevitability of a large ice floe taking out an oil platform (i've seen oil platforms in person, btw).  considering how long it took bp to stop the oil gushing from the deepwater horizon, how long do u think it would take to respond to an arctic oil emergency?  and think of the albedo of an oil slick!!! shell is just throwing their reputation away, and not because they want to drill now, but because they will look so shockingly inept in the near future.

This is why they have to have an icebreaker at all times. When a large floe is heading towards a rig, the icebreaker is there to smash it up.

Neven.

Possible closure of the Alaska pipeline is not why Shell in particular is keen to drill in the Arctic. Shell is keen to drill there because its running out of oil in other places. However, it is a reason for being hasty about it rather than waiting another 10 years for more ice to melt and exploration being easier. The time from exploration to production is significant enough that they might find the preferred method of getting the oil to market was closed if they let the exploration schedule slip too much.

BP's Prudhoe Bay operation might well be the main beneficiary if the pipeline life was extended by oil from other Arctic fields. I'm sure they are very glad its Shell taking the blowout risk rather than them.

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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2015, 03:55:25 AM »

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People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.

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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2015, 09:07:52 PM »
The controversy over Shell's Arctic oil drilling, explained
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248593/shell-arctic-drilling-obama
People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it.

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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2015, 10:26:32 PM »
The controversy over Shell's Arctic oil drilling, explained
http://www.vox.com/2015/9/2/9248593/shell-arctic-drilling-obama
I followed the  tragic comedy that unfolded the last time Shell and Noble attempted to drill in these waters.

Rather than risk a slap suit I'll simply recommend Googling for Kulluk and/or Noble Discovery or Noble Drilling.

Why would anyone allow a convicted felon, guilty of 8 felonies arising from the last time he worked on your property, to return 3 years later for additional work?

This is a travesty.
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« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2015, 02:13:12 AM »
"Why would anyone allow a convicted felon, guilty of 8 felonies arising from the last time he worked on your property, to return 3 years later for additional work?"

Do I really have to say it ? Because they have bought the politicians and the enforcement agencies.

For my sins, I happen to deal with a bunch of truckers, and a buncha refinery workers. Daily the refineries in OH, PA, and NJ  commit EPA violations that would get someone like me shut down in a heartbeat. They just call the lawyers, pay the fines and continue operating the exact same way.

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Re: Arctic Drilling and Shipping
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2015, 05:32:54 AM »
sidd


I'm unfortunately aware of the realities. It's just that the stench of this is going to follow Obama & others to their graves.


We need Democrats to be elected since the other side is unimaginably bad, but they do their cause no good when Hunter Biden jumps into Ukrainian fracking while a civil war rages, and our fearless leader allows the same fox back into the same hen house, because he promises that he's changed.


If this doesn't cost in actual votes, it will cost in the enthusiasm that can be a game changer in a close race.


As a Canadian I'm doing my best to promote an ABC vote (Anyone But Conservatives), as I'm convinced that the present regime is the worst thing that Canada has done to the world at large since confederation. We may at some time in the future have the luxury of voting for the Green Party, or whichever party most closely matches our wants & priorities, but now we must pull together and bring down Harper.


Sorry for the rant, this is close to my heart.
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