If there is no objection, i would like to move a discussion from the "climate porn" vs "not alarmed enough" thread to this one.
Mr. Steele asked for my thoughts:
"I probably have a better idea about gallons of soy oil produced per acre, bio-diesel production per gallon of used oil and processing equipment required than most other readers here but if you could put some of those numbers down ... "
I will give you the point of view of a typical farmer, say one of my neighbors.
1) Soy is 15% oil. Canola is 40%. If i were maximizing oil production i would go canola, so let me work out on possible use case for canola based on midwest climate.
2) what to sow ? GMO or non GMO ? 23 % of all canola found by roads (uncultivated) in the USA is GMO, just blown in. So if you go non GMO unless nobody has grown GMO canola around you for many years, you will have contamination. This is an issue. Monsanto will come after you. And you cant sell the grain or meal or oil as non GMO. Thats a 30%-70% price swing. Non GMO you cant use herbicide to knock down the weeds coz that will kill the canola too. (Herbicide application costs money, so thats an upside for nonGMO) Lets say you go nonGMO since you hate Monsanto and their ilk.
3) NonGMO you got to start early. Typically you might broadcast the seed into a standing soybean crop well before the first frost. You can combine the soy out over the canola seedlings, big soft tires wont hurt em too much. They got to get to at least that three leaf stage before the first frost or they will die overwinter. (You can go out into the fields in a hard frost and kick off the snow and ice and see em under there ... if they are green they got a chance, if they are black you need another plan ...) Why overwinter ? Coz you went nonGMO, cant use herbicide, so you need the canola to jump out early, shade out the weeds.
4) Fertilizer. Ideally you got animals for manure and your manure spreader. Or you can go the Ingraham compost methods. Or you use commercial fertilizer. Remember, you didnt fertilize the soy too much, since it makes its own nitrogen. But that dont last. Now you got to be careful here, dont want the fertilizer to run away into the streams in rainstorms, and frozen ground dont absorb either. You did leave the conservation strips by the streams, didnt you ? Some people spray pigshit and chickenshit, and that goes everywhere in wind, and comes off the ground if it dries out. So watch the weather, or did i say that already ?
5) Now you sit back an watch. Keep the animals out. As Mr. Steele says, farming is a brutal business. Killed 42 gophers around a ten acre field one year. Deer is another thing. Canola has yellow flowers and tiny tiny seeds in tiny tiny seed pods. Flowers go away, plant browns up, time to combine.
6) Harvest might be in june. Combine advice from ag outreach programs, is (i kid you not) is duct tape. Canola seed is tiny, under a millimeter, and there are many bigger holes in a typical combine. Tape everything in sight and have much more tape on hand to fix the little canola waterfalls you will see. The temperature will be a hundred in the shade, andnow you got a truck fulla canola. Leave it sit and it will catch fire as it composts at the bottom. There is lotsa oil there. You did remember to put the tube with the fan into the truck rite, to keep the air moving, cool it off ?
7) 50 lb/bushel canola 40% oil, you will get 35% wiith cold press. You can go organic solvent (say xylene, expensive) to get it all but i dont, for reasons involving residues. So 50 lb/bushel. you get 17.5 gallons (US) raw oil per bushel. Good year you will get 30 bushel per acre, say 70 gallons raw oil per acre. To keep this in perspective, when all is done and dusted, you will have burned 10 gallons diesel per acre, just on ag and transport alone. If you wanna go fullscale amish, make your own electric and such you will burn at least twice as much.
8) if you got old tractors and old combine, in summer i have seen raw oil poured into the tank. If you want biodiesel, 15% loss (but you get back that in glycerol.) if you send the oil thru food service, another 15% loss. Be careful making biodiesel, process might kill you in multiple ways.
9)there is much much more involved and i could go on forever. Each of the points above has minutae that are quite important and i have skipped very many things. But this post is too long as it is.
sidd