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Re: Test space
« Reply #400 on: May 02, 2022, 01:00:12 PM »
pourquoi pas?

scale the moon with image->scale
insert the small ani into v106 with image->stacks->tools->insert

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Re: Test space
« Reply #401 on: May 30, 2022, 12:01:03 AM »
ascat sep21-may28  temp
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Re: Test space
« Reply #402 on: May 30, 2022, 12:25:55 AM »
I love watching these Ascat animations. Thanks.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #403 on: May 30, 2022, 08:21:40 AM »
So do i, i got hooked after the greenland melt event of 2012.

Thanks for this one.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #404 on: June 01, 2022, 10:09:24 PM »
ECMWF are having a hackathon around visualising meteorological data. Its being held in Reading, England and its free. Could be really interesting

https://events.ecmwf.int/event/305/
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Re: Test space
« Reply #405 on: June 18, 2022, 01:05:54 PM »
using heavy contrast rammb animation to look through clouds
north pole, jun17-18    best viewed full screen on loop  2.2MB
default with graticule for comparison
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Re: Test space
« Reply #406 on: June 28, 2022, 10:52:34 PM »
not quite

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Re: Test space
« Reply #407 on: June 29, 2022, 04:30:09 PM »
SO2 to enhance the view of the wind flow, like with the fires (i assume) at the very top?
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Re: Test space
« Reply #408 on: July 01, 2022, 11:23:07 PM »
freezing point

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Re: Test space
« Reply #409 on: July 14, 2022, 11:57:25 PM »
rammb, lowconc, jun15-jul14  23.7MB
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Re: Test space
« Reply #410 on: July 18, 2022, 02:58:31 PM »
cmems sea surface height, jan2020-jul2022  (8MB)
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Re: Test space
« Reply #411 on: July 22, 2022, 11:12:11 AM »
is it worth resizing? only if you go to 500+
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Re: Test space
« Reply #412 on: July 22, 2022, 08:45:50 PM »
A good size rammb of development of the low concentration area between Laptev and the pole, jun15-jul22, 24fps
https://col.st/3mGm1  (20MB)
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Re: Test space
« Reply #413 on: July 22, 2022, 08:53:55 PM »
If only we could peek through clouds better...
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Re: Test space
« Reply #414 on: July 22, 2022, 08:56:41 PM »
well the clouds show some of the story. crf29 makes it worse but without it it's 45MB There is one more level of processing that might help, maybe run that at the end of the season. jul19 is missing. I got fooled by the change in rammb storage.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #415 on: July 24, 2022, 06:48:23 PM »
composite of aqua, terra, suomi/npp and noaa20 near the pole, jul24

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Re: Test space
« Reply #416 on: August 06, 2022, 03:08:13 PM »
A good size rammb of development of the low concentration area between Laptev and the pole, jun15-aug6, 24fps  jul19 is missing, crf29
https://col.st/3mGm1  (27MB)
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Re: Test space
« Reply #417 on: August 15, 2022, 10:33:58 PM »
medium size rammb update of low concentration area, jun16-aug15
duplicated many missing frames, forgot the graticule this time
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Re: Test space
« Reply #418 on: August 16, 2022, 02:09:08 PM »
Clouds a help and a hindrance.  ;)
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Re: Test space
« Reply #419 on: August 18, 2022, 12:16:10 AM »
The last 3 years first at -92m N/S water velocity then N/S+E/W then .5m ditto. all 10or11:08 depending which date indicator you choose to believe.
Wondering if some of the excess heat of incoming Atl. waters is being expressed as movement which generates vorticity and that in turn mixes layers and expresses existing heat. The day to day makes it too variable to tell, there does seem to be a shift to a more Fram-bound flow but that could just be chance.   

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Re: Test space
« Reply #420 on: August 18, 2022, 11:07:15 PM »
Another try at making connections. All the same day  first at -92m E/W then N/S then both, then same at -.5m with nullschool mslp as first frame and bathymetry clear enough to place features.
So I think the turbulence and consequent broken ice is the result of a forced current, forced in the sense that the water moving north, east of Laptev, is moving west also, where it's 'natural' flow due to excess inertia would be to 'overtake' the rotating frame and move east. There's a clear difference some water is moving north and east and it's much calmer, so I suspect it's this forcing that creates more intense vortices as the 'right turns' are much sharper and thus exert a more powerful centrifugal drive and upwelling?

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Re: Test space
« Reply #421 on: August 23, 2022, 11:43:24 AM »
awi sic-leads v110, bering strait jan2021-aug2022
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Re: Test space
« Reply #422 on: August 24, 2022, 09:16:51 PM »
nsidc sic sep2006-sep2007
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Re: Test space
« Reply #423 on: August 25, 2022, 11:04:16 AM »
piomas and ice age sep2006-sep2007

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Re: Test space
« Reply #424 on: August 25, 2022, 12:49:58 PM »
Quite amazing. Will cross-post.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #425 on: August 26, 2022, 05:02:56 PM »

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Re: Test space
« Reply #426 on: August 27, 2022, 12:06:21 PM »
sic-leads v110 overlaid at 70% transparent onto high contrast gmrt bathy
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Re: Test space
« Reply #427 on: August 27, 2022, 02:11:01 PM »
This year there is lower correlation of extent  with bathy, with the ESS arm extending over shallow water while the deep Beaufort ia relatively clear.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #428 on: August 27, 2022, 05:52:58 PM »
This year there is lower correlation of extent  with bathy, with the ESS arm extending over shallow water while the deep Beaufort ia relatively clear.

As you are surely aware, ESS often has a Wrangel arm or remnants of one and Beaufort often melts out as noted here

The thing about the Beaufort is that the ice melts out to roughly 77N nearly every year since 2012.  2013 was one exception.  And last year the ice nearly melted out to about 77N with significant areas of open water in this region, but also significant areas of very thin and disperse ice further south.  There was almost no good melt weather impacting the Beaufort last year.  In many years a tongue of ice along the edge reaches further south with 2020 and 2021 this tongue went quite a long way.  <>

What I look for in the bathy overlays is signs of ocean activity which are increasingly visible as the ice thins. So we have imo the beginnings of evidence of
1. turbulence reaching near surface along the Lomonosov Ridge perhaps also Gakkel Ridge
2. turbulence along the Mendeleyev Ridge including over the unknown rise that is only on gmrt bathy
3. turbulence north and east of Northwind Ridge
4. turbulence over the shelf break north east of Mclure Strait. Possibly upwelling Pacific layer from Northwind.
5. shelf break north of FJL
6. Maybe harmonic standing waves north of Svalbard/FJL gap
7. Cold or lower salinity current from Vilkitsky Strait

Then, why is the ESS/Chukchi coastal current cold at the end of summer? permafrost?
Is that permafrost between the New Siberian Islands or just an amsr2 moisture/coastal problem?

NE of mclure below

edit: added a static for ref when the ani is removed
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Re: Test space
« Reply #429 on: August 28, 2022, 12:02:47 AM »
Thanks for the detailed response.
Admittedly my comment only referred to a comparison (from memory) with last year.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #430 on: October 18, 2022, 09:46:56 PM »
awi sic-leads v110, sh, mar-oct17  5.3MB
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Re: Test space
« Reply #431 on: December 29, 2022, 03:34:56 PM »
Looking at ways to quantify Fram export from the awi leads data with ImageJ

https://imagej.net/plugins/piv-analyser
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PIV analyser

This plugin calculates the optic flow for each pair of images made with the given stack.
Principle

The plugin works using the PIV method, which is the most basic technique for optic flow. This technique, mainly used in acoustics or in fluids mechanics, enables the measurements of a velocity field in one plane, using imaging and image analysis1. It can be seen as one of the most simple pattern matching problem implementation.

PIV analysis is a block-based optic flow, based on inferring in what direction and in what amount a part of an image has moved between two successive instant. In the aforementioned domains, a flow is visualized by seeding it with light-reflecting particle (smoke in air, bubbles, glass beads in water, …) and imaged at two very close instants. The cross-correlation between parts of the two images where pattern generated by particles can be seen is then used to compute the velocity field.

The PIV algorithm is made of the following steps:

    two images are acquired of the same object are acquired at two successive instant;
    they are spliced in small pieces called interrogation windows;
    the cross-correlation between the two images is computed for each small window;
    the peak in the resulting correlation image is searched for. The peak location gives the displacement for which the two image parts look the best alike, that is: the amount by which the second image has to be moved to look like the first image the best;
    the velocity vector at this point is defined as the peak’s position. This assume that between the two successive instants, the image did not change too much in content, but moved or deformed.

piv outputs a flow direction map and u/v velocity
images are nov1-dec28, daily was better than 12h

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Re: Test space
« Reply #432 on: December 29, 2022, 04:45:31 PM »
7day average intensity of flow direction

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Re: Test space
« Reply #433 on: December 30, 2022, 10:49:52 PM »
Nice. I was wondering about the possibility to quantify area export, but of course have no tools to actually do it.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #434 on: January 02, 2023, 12:30:34 AM »
default settings for Plugins->BIJ->FlowJ.
Can't find any easy instructions though


SurfaceJ rendering was more fun. Both on ascat


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Re: Test space
« Reply #435 on: January 02, 2023, 05:24:43 PM »
I am not sure what you did or how you did it, but the blue animation is great.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #436 on: March 22, 2023, 09:01:43 PM »
North Atlantic/Barents cmems-0.5m-seawater-velocity-jan1-mar22  27MB mp4
https://data.marine.copernicus.eu/-/vuf1nej62f

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Re: Test space
« Reply #437 on: April 01, 2023, 12:18:46 PM »
just messing about so temp.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #438 on: April 01, 2023, 12:20:42 PM »
same
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Re: Test space
« Reply #439 on: April 22, 2023, 02:32:43 PM »
Looking at CMEMS I chose a depth and area fine tuned for max contrast, had an animation made, which didn't show what I expected so having a rethink,
the image is just a look at peculiar lines/artifacts in Beaufort they stretch a little into the rubble area?
temp
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Re: Test space
« Reply #440 on: April 22, 2023, 04:59:34 PM »
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the image is just a look at peculiar lines/artifacts in Beaufort they stretch a little into the rubble area?

I think they are a result of the weather filter. I like them a lot, makes it easier to identify passing weather systems against true low concentration.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #441 on: April 22, 2023, 09:37:02 PM »
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diffuse blue patches result of the weather filter
Correct. They represent cumulative water vapor extremes in the atmospheric column that the filter could not fully remove. They could be removed by AI based on the diffusivity, correlation with weather data, and rapid movement. However as is, they provide a nice co-location over leads and ice motion and don't mask them.

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Re: Test space
« Reply #442 on: July 16, 2023, 11:12:47 PM »
These are self explanatory, and temporary,
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Re: Test space
« Reply #443 on: July 17, 2023, 09:54:17 PM »
Using uni's settings I looked at different depths,
 I change the depth by grabbing/moving the line, which I've lined up with 'points' in the first image.
Not sure what this is telling us until I look at another year or two.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #444 on: July 18, 2023, 11:46:45 PM »
Using a similar set up but for 3 diferent years I chose the depth to get a look at the dynamics in the Nordic seas.
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Re: Test space
« Reply #445 on: July 23, 2023, 08:08:24 PM »
Ignore the depth on the first two, the third is finely tuned it may be showing bodies of water moving N/S and the eddies that result, I chose the depth for the layer in contact with the ice. temporary snip
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Re: Test space
« Reply #446 on: July 27, 2023, 11:58:33 AM »
Needs some tuning
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Re: Test space
« Reply #447 on: July 28, 2023, 04:59:03 PM »
Still not there,
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Re: Test space
« Reply #448 on: July 28, 2023, 10:48:40 PM »
Something else, second is better tuned
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Re: Test space
« Reply #449 on: August 05, 2023, 10:33:51 AM »
movement gifs temp
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