Neven, Sure. Perhaps we should start a new thread. However, this is the problem. Article after article. Blog after blog. Publication after publication. Thousands of educated scientist reporting data and every news cast includes one of "us" and one dissenter. We outnumber the dissenters a 1000 to 1 yet they get the same face time. The best we get is a recent CNN article by Sutter that water-downs the problem and even then nobody listens. Europe falls apart in in 1915 and we mobilize our entire country to fight, fascism tries to rule us all in the 1940s and we put everything we have into stopping it, terrorism spreads across the globe after 9/11 and we spend trillions. We are looking at the very real possibility of the extinction of our entire species and since I took my first college class in the 90's we were talking about it and now, over twenty years later, we are still only talking and nothing is changing. WTF are we really doing? I show current data to educated left leaning friends and even they don't want to hear it. New Xbox game, birthday party for the kids, planning a vacation. Where is the fight, why are we not standing up, grabbing a reporter, a politician, a friend and forcing them to look at what is coming. A group of Americans stood up and risked their very lives on a train in France to stop an attack and they are, rightfully, heralded as heroes. Where are our heroes? When do we all start to stand up and fight for the future of our children. So, let's move this topic to a new thread but I ask all of you, who is going to be our hero? I guarantee you it is a more important question than any other of the net.